Service & Engagement What's the point of trying anymore?

Flabbergasted · Oct 13, 2014

I feel like no matter how hard I try, I'll never be good enough for them. I've talked to my ETL about promoting. His response was generic and unimpressive. I want to be GSA -- and eventually GSTL -- but I know that'll never happen. They think I'm a joke. They went ahead and hired three externals to fill those positions, and all of them are people who've never worked at Target before.

So, I ask, what's the point of trying anymore? I know it's obvious they think I'm unfit for it. They won't even give me backup GSA shifts, but were more than willing to give those to that other cashier who's been here less time than I have.

How am I supposed to get the management experience I so desperately want if they won't even let me try? I can do it. I can do it better than them. They just don't see it, and that sucks.

commiecorvus · Oct 13, 2014

You keep trying because Spot isn't the end.
If they don't recognize you than in the long run it's their loss but you didn't give up.
You will move on to someplace else where they appreciate you and your experience of not giving up will serve to make you a better boss.

Producer · Oct 13, 2014

If I remember correctly, you were hired around four or five months ago. I know that's a long time to be working in retail, but I'm sure part of the hesitation would be that you're still fairly new in the position. Just a thought.

SalesFloorGal · Oct 13, 2014

Also, if they have told you in so many words that you aren't ready, then ask if they can develop you. Even just ask what your opportunities are so that you can improve!

whippingboy · Oct 13, 2014

My suggestion is to ask your STL. Just because your ETL may not like you doesn't mean your Store Leader doesn't. There could be an opportunity elsewhere in the store.

Flabbergasted · Oct 13, 2014

I could talk to my ETL-GE again but I don't want to seem like I'm bugging. As for the STL, I wouldn't even know how to approach him about it; he's always running around the store like a chicken with its head cut off, hardly appearing to have enough time to speak with me.

I know I'm still new here. I'm just worried they'll never see me as fit for the position.

Hardlinesmaster · Oct 13, 2014

Well, take a moment & ask your stl. He might watching you & waiting for you to say something. Don't let regret & what if beat you.

Flabbergasted · Oct 13, 2014

Hardlinesmaster said:
Well, take a moment & ask your stl. He might watching you & waiting for you to say something. Don't let regret & what if beat you.

If only I had thought to speak with him before the new hires came in. Is now even a good time or should I wait 'til one of them quits?

SpotCrazy · Oct 14, 2014

You need an active development guide of sorts.

Where you can set your end goal and all the actions that need to be taken to get there and in each action of course activities that breaks down what your learning and how your strengthening.

It's like how we used to the vibe stuff. Strong goal and activities to accomplish that goal.

Ask for feed back from all your leadership team. A lot of times, your direct etl is just going off of communication that they're receiving from their peers? Lots and lots of moving and busy work and communication

Guest · Oct 14, 2014

I ask myself that all the time. I guess I'm a little different since I despise working at Target and don't want to be promoted yet I still work there. So sad.

Lately, I've been not caring as much on certain things. When I pull frozen shit, I don't even care where it goes. If there is a backstock tub close to me, I will put the shit on that tub. I don't care enough anymore to dig out the pull tub that's behind 3 pallets of frozen food.

Hardlinesmaster · Oct 14, 2014

Forhyre said:
Hardlinesmaster said:

Well, take a moment & ask your stl. He might watching you & waiting for you to say something. Don't let regret & what if beat you.

Click to expand...

If only I had thought to speak with him before the new hires came in. Is now even a good time or should I wait 'til one of them quits?

Go for it.

SeeSpotVibe · Oct 15, 2014

Ask about mentoring! Even if it isn't to pipeline you to the position you want, it's really great to help you develop. Ask your leaders for feedback consistently too, and even if you don't like what they say or you feel it's untrue, prove them wrong. It's hard, I won't pretend it isn't, but if you really want to move up, you have to show them just how serious you are and that you'll do whatever they want you to to succeed. Just showing interest isn't always enough, so don't give up!

overnight · Oct 17, 2014

Jackswastedlife99 said:
I ask myself that all the time. I guess I'm a little different since I despise working at Target and don't want to be promoted yet I still work there. So sad.

Lately, I've been not caring as much on certain things. When I pull frozen shit, I don't even care where it goes. If there is a backstock tub close to me, I will put the shit on that tub. I don't care enough anymore to dig out the pull tub that's behind 3 pallets of frozen food.

You sound just like me!!! I've worked for target for over 7 yrs and I am just so burnt out!!!

monkeyman90 · Oct 21, 2014

i felt the same way. i wanted to at least be service desk. they had to have training hours before i could be there even though they gave me 10 minutes to learn and then had me cover breaks. past that, its learning by doing. i could do gsa, but they went external when it came up. had to wait till it came up again. they finally moved me to service desk after applying at they went experience. a transfer has been there longer. my etl loved me, but i didn't have interactions with other etls because i barely worked service desk. afterwards, everyone knew me and loved working with me, but didn't help.

they also went external for some gstl.

gsa comes up again, everyone thinks i'm a shoe in. they don't want to apply cause they think i have it sewn up. etl wants me there. we get a new stl and its talk to them and go off your first impression.

i've done so much above and beyond. doesn't help. it depends what your store needs, what they're looking for, and what you say in the 3 question interview that's idiotic.

Hardlinesmaster · Oct 21, 2014

M09, keep on applying for the gsa job.

Guest · Oct 21, 2014

There is no point.

paidtosmile · Oct 21, 2014

Keep applying and improving yourself! Or look elsewhere if you're really done. I left because my store leaders wouldn't move me out of the GE side of things, even though my sole interest was AP.... I started searching elsewhere and got an Area LP Leader position with a new company.
I guarantee that even though spot might not appreciate your talents and support your interests, another retailer somewhere will.

thetargetman · Oct 28, 2014

I am in a similar situation and my ETL-GE doughtily plays favorites. I have been reapplying for the position of GSA the second it opens up again. I am also trying to gain experience in other parts of the store as well and I stongly encourage you to do the same. just keep re applying until they give you the position or tell you to stop. good luck!

Guest · Oct 30, 2014

I have said it before and I will say it again. There's no point. All you need to do is either do your best or the minimum amount required to keep you employed.

qmosqueen · Oct 31, 2014

Jackswastedlife99 said:
I have said it before and I will say it again. There's no point. All you need to do is either do your best or the minimum amount required to keep you employed.

I feel the same here. Now we are losing a PA to GSTL good for her. But at this critical time of the year thanksgiving is less than 4 weeks away. I'm going to do my best but I cannot do everything and keep turkey's full too. I feel overwhelmed when I close on a truck day and still have 3 plus hours of produce to push.

Best TM NA · Nov 2, 2014

OP sounds like a pest. What you just started a few months ago and you want into management already. Its a cut throat world tighten your belt and just work.

Flabbergasted · Nov 5, 2014

Best TM NA said:
OP sounds like a pest. What you just started a few months ago and you want into management already. Its a cut throat world tighten your belt and just work.

I'm not trying to be a pest. And I don't even want to go into management right this second. Not even 6 months from now. But what I would like is an opportunity and I don't think that's going to happen, ever. My leaders don't see me as anything more than a cashier. The GSTL uttered a little giggle when I said I was interested in promoting. I hate being a joke to people. I want to prove I can be in charge, but for now I'm just the little twerp grocery bagging boy that can't sell enough REDcards. I don't feel like it's going to be easy to change that image.

I still haven't talked to my STL. I don't really know a good way to approach him. I've already talked to my ETL-HR and her response was that they need to hire more people at the front end before they can even consider advancing me.

Hardlinesmaster · Nov 5, 2014

Wait till after 4 qtr. learn everything about your current job, is suggested.

Bosch · Nov 5, 2014

4th quarter use it to prove you are worth investing in. It is a stress test like no other.

Flabbergasted · Nov 6, 2014

How do I stand out from the other cashiers, though? What are some things I can do to put on a show for my leaders to improve their perception of me?

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