2022 Vacation/Time Off Changes

[Anelmi]

New changes coming to T/O.

From the email sent out today:

Key changes:
o Any balance in your personal holiday time and well-being time will be converted into vacation hours on the effective date.
o All eligible team members will now be able to submit time-off up to 40 hours in a week, rather than limiting the maximum to their average hours.
o Holiday pay will be calculated based on average hours and will no longer look at the hours worked during holiday week (effective July 4th, 2022).

 

[Dcnewb4now]

What a crock. Look for mass call ins on holidays.

 

[IhateOPmodel]

Holiday pay will be calculated based on average hours and will no longer look at the hours worked during holiday week (effective July 4th, 2022

How does this work? Right now if you work a 40 hour work week and work on a holiday you can technically work 48 hours and it not count as overtime. Is this still the case?

Or does it just mean if you are under say 25 hours you don't qualify for the time and a half pay?

 

[dannyy315]

Great, I was planning on taking a week off in February and I'm glad I won't be limited to my average hours.

But the part about holiday pay confuses me.

 

[Amanda Cantwell]

I may be wrong but I think holiday pay just affects leaders who were paid regardless of whether or not they worked that holiday. You will get 1.5x if you work if you’re hourly

Great, I was planning on taking a week off in February and I'm glad I won't be limited to my average hours.

But the part about holiday pay confuses me.

I think the changes start in April

 

[dannyy315]

I think the changes start in April

Ugh, well maybe I'll take some time off in the summer or something. Assuming they'll have enough coverage on the floor.

Or maybe I'll just take the time off in February, I kinda wanted a mental reset anyway.

 

[Anelmi]

I think the Holiday pay would also apply to those of us who get Thanksgiving/Christmas holiday pay? Hasn't it always be average hours for figuring that out?

 

[NightHuntress]

I think the Holiday pay would also apply to those of us who get Thanksgiving/Christmas holiday pay? Hasn't it always be average hours for figuring that out?

That’s what I thought. I thought it was always based off of your average hours guess I was wrong

 

[Amanda Cantwell]

Ugh, well maybe I'll take some time off in the summer or something. Assuming they'll have enough coverage on the floor.

Or maybe I'll just take the time off in February, I kinda wanted a mental reset anyway.

I mean now that you can use up to 40 you could just take the time in Feb up to avg, then in April just work like normal and fill up to 40 with vacay since very few of us get 40 hours in april

 

[YugTegrat]

Is there any mention of the accrual rate and limit on vacation time being increased as well? If only a consolidation takes place, then we're all losing a good chunk of vacation time as a result.

 

[brizzality]

The combining of vacation/personal/wb time makes sense. I took time off for Christmas and they didn’t combine my hours as I noted in the app so I was underpaid for the days I took off. I used a mix of vacation and personal and only paid vacation.

 

[Anelmi]

This is what i found. Sorry about formatting but I think you can figure it out:

20-24 hours:
Years of Service Accrual Rate Per Hour Paid Annual Accrual Limit Maximum Accrual
up to 5 years 0.019231 40 hours 60 Hours
Greater than 5 -10 yrs 0.038462 80 hours 120 Hours
Greater than 10 - 25 yrs 0.057693 120 hours 180 Hours
Greater than 25 years 0.076924 160 hours 240 Hours


Over 25 hours:
Years of Service Accrual Rate Per Hour Paid Annual Accrual Limit Maximum Accrual
up to 5 years .028846 60 hours 90 Hours
Greater than 5 -10 yrs .051923 108 hours 162 Hours
Greater than 10 -25 yrs .071154 148 hours 222 Hours
Greater than 25 years .090385 188 hours 282 Hours


HQ non-exempt, Supply Chain Facilities, Stores PG45 TMs and TLs:
Years of Service Accrual Rate Per Hour Paid Annual Accrual Limit Maximum Accrual
Up to 5 years .053846 112 hours 168 hours
Greater than 5 -10 yrs .076923 160 hours 240 hours
Greater than 10 -25 yrs .096154 200 hours 300 hours
Greater than 25 years .115385 240 hours 360 hours

 

[NightHuntress]

According to that I will be getting less vacation and losing all personal holidays. Grr…

maybe not. I didn’t see the part separate for team leads. I will have to double check that

 

[YugTegrat]

This is what i found. Sorry about formatting but I think you can figure it out:

I'm still under 5 years and it doesn't seem as though the limit was increased. I'm sitting on 60 hours of vacation (capped), 24 hours of personal holiday (capped), and 4 hours of well-being (capped). If they combine those, I'll have 88 hours of vacation.. until I use 28 of those hours, then I'll be capped at 60 again. So I'm losing out on 28 hours per year now, as I only have a single pool that caps at 60 rather than three pools that collectively cap at 88.

 

[IhateOPmodel]

This is what i found. Sorry about formatting but I think you can figure it out:

20-24 hours:
Years of Service Accrual Rate Per Hour Paid Annual Accrual Limit Maximum Accrual
up to 5 years 0.019231 40 hours 60 Hours
Greater than 5 -10 yrs 0.038462 80 hours 120 Hours
Greater than 10 - 25 yrs 0.057693 120 hours 180 Hours
Greater than 25 years 0.076924 160 hours 240 Hours


Over 25 hours:
Years of Service Accrual Rate Per Hour Paid Annual Accrual Limit Maximum Accrual
up to 5 years .028846 60 hours 90 Hours
Greater than 5 -10 yrs .051923 108 hours 162 Hours
Greater than 10 -25 yrs .071154 148 hours 222 Hours
Greater than 25 years .090385 188 hours 282 Hours


HQ non-exempt, Supply Chain Facilities, Stores PG45 TMs and TLs:
Years of Service Accrual Rate Per Hour Paid Annual Accrual Limit Maximum Accrual
Up to 5 years .053846 112 hours 168 hours
Greater than 5 -10 yrs .076923 160 hours 240 hours
Greater than 10 -25 yrs .096154 200 hours 300 hours
Greater than 25 years .115385 240 hours 360 hours

So Ive been with target 15 years and a TL. Am I losing out on anything with the new program?

 

[PogDog]

Effective April 2022

Biggest take away: you can post for vacation pay out for up to 40 regular hours worked (so if you’re scheduled a holiday, but your total worked hours are less than 40 minus that holiday, you can ask for pay for the difference).

Still can’t get pay out at end of year for unused vacation though 🙁

Its a step in the right direction as far as less limiters. I’ve wanted to use vacation pay on weeks I was scheduled a holiday, and couldn’t because of the average hour limiter.

 

[LK18]

I like the new changes, they increased the overall accrual rate which is nice. I think the full time workers getting more vacation then part time people is a nice touch to. Although I am still confused by the Holiday pay thing like many others.

 

[Dream Baby]

Still can’t get pay out at end of year for unused vacation though 🙁

I don't know if any companies pay out unused vacation at the end of the year.

I mentioned in another thread if Target terminates you they may not have to pay out your vacation depending where you live.

If if you live in a state that does it might be MONTHS before you get it.

 

[Frontlanegirl]

I live in a state that pays out vacation when you term and you get it on your last pay check.

 

[BottomPerformer]

I currently earn 4 personal days per year. Im hoping that is factored into the new vacation accruals. I haven't seen any info yet about that.

 

[Dcnewb4now]

I currently earn 4 personal days per year. Im hoping that is factored into the new vacation accruals. I haven't seen any info yet about that.

From what is on target pay and benefits, it does. But they are getting rid of well being time. But they will now function as regular vacation time instead of the perks ph has.

 

[Dream Baby]

So Target decided to merge everything together and call it PTO (Paid Time Off) like everyone did years ago.

 

[happygoth]

So Target decided to merge everything together and call it PTO (Paid Time Off) like everyone did years ago.

My husband works for Whole Foods and that's how they do it.

 

[Far from newbie]

Really ?? woo-hoo and Hoo-ray !
Every year have forfeited 60-80 hours sick time because I don’t call-out. Now I can use it - without guilt of having to lie that I’m ‘sick’ to use it ! Better for the store because now 2 weeks notice is required to use it instead of calling out an hour before shift starts !

 

[JohnSith373]

Basically Target decided to merge all the time off buckets excluding sick and older vacation payout bucket. Nearly everybody gains accrual rate and min/max. Only people who lose, are the people below 25 hours.