Archived Availability

[Retail Girl]

So I have a coworker who managed to get a sweet deal with availability, about 7 months ago. He basically said if they wanted to keep him, he would no longer be working X day. They caved, and let him have it. Naturally it's one of the weekend days. And it is making scheduling a huge hassle in this department. Other coworkers will never get a full weekend off because of this. Said coworker also has taken off 3/4 of the weekends off this summer leaving other coworkers forced to work every weekend due to this coworker's time off and the TL's rotating weekends. Leadership has finally realized it is not fair and they cannot continue to require the other people in this department with open availability to work every day on every weekend for eternity.

It was supposed to come down yesterday, but may come down sooner or later, who the hell knows, that this coworker is going to be told his availability request for this day off, after 7 months, will no longer be honored, and they need to figure out how to work around it if they want to remain in this position.

Can they actually do this? Can they renege on an availability that these very leaders approved?

 

[signing genie]

Yes and no they can deny his request for days off but not for availability thats input into my time or max if ur store is still using that.

 

[Bosch]

My availability is similar, I refuse to work full weekends. To many weekends of doing a Saturday In-Stocks shift and my TL leaving the next Sunday open, but HR slotting in a 8hr market shift.. After a 4th quarter of that shit, I told them to stop it or I quit.. Cause they also pulled "needs of the business" on me. "Its awesome that you think I am that great but you better train some people cause every shift you schedule me, I am putting on the swap board and if not picked up calling out on it. Put your work life balance into effect or I will do it for you." It stopped.

The store screwed up by allowing all the days off in connection to his day off.. Sorry but the store needs to train some people. Cause on the other hand, if you have the time off to use, you have to be allowed to use it..

But they agreed to his day off, train someone ..

 

[Retail Girl]

Note...if they do do this, what will likely happen is that all TMs in the department, including this TM, could have rotating weekends off.

 

[tgtguy]

Prior to Mytime....I was on a rotating schedule...where I was off every other weekend...all in all it wasn't bad. I always knew that I was going to have my weekend off....and always have a day off during the week. However.....since mytime its been a mess. I just finsished up a 9 day straight stretch.... Its not fair that anyone have a no weekends or limited weekends avail. The way I see it ...if I have been with spot for ....years and I still have to do weekends...then you better believe some new hire should be doing them as well.

 

[NeoDarikona]

Reneging on an availability agreement is a sign of poor management. What are your leaders doing to negotiate an equitable solution instead of just trying scheme?

 

[Gulfcoast]

Want to know what's screwed up?

My consumables team used to have a rotating schedule. Everyone got at least one weekend a month off, minimum.

MyTime rolls out, they auto generate the schedule and ignore my repeated requests to give my tms at least two consecutive days a month off.

It's sheer sloth on their part, since my team's schedule ISN'T guest driven, which means they have to generate it by hand.

I know my TMs availability. Just let me write the goddamned schedule for consumables. Not a single one of them has missed a day of work, come in late or made unreasonable day off requests in eight months.

Also, quit scheduling me on the same days as my lead PA, it's her damned job to be me when I'm not there. Scheduling both of us on the same day just means she doesn't get confident about handing vendors and doing the extra tasks.

 

[eleuthreophile]

You can change your availability to have rotating weekends off, or whatever else you want.

 

[Retail Girl]

Reneging on an availability agreement is a sign of poor management. What are your leaders doing to negotiate an equitable solution instead of just trying scheme?

It would allow everyone in the dept (including this TM) to have rotating weekends.

 

[Bosch]

Prior to Mytime....I was on a rotating schedule...where I was off every other weekend...all in all it wasn't bad. I always knew that I was going to have my weekend off....and always have a day off during the week. However.....since mytime its been a mess. I just finsished up a 9 day straight stretch.... Its not fair that anyone have a no weekends or limited weekends avail. The way I see it ...if I have been with spot for ....years and I still have to do weekends...then you better believe some new hire should be doing them as well.

Work life balance. I just enforce it, if I didn't my husband would never see me. I work early, he works late. I drew a line and will not cross it. No one is needed that badly, no job in a Target store is that important that you are needed an entire weekend.. And not working in my primary work center, umm I did a Saturday in my work center now you want me to cashier on Sunday? What about the 5 cashiers that begged me for that shift?

 

[Barcode]

RG, they could request that he change his availability to fit business needs. If he doesn't accept, they could just let him go (at will employment -- most states). Of course depending how they terminate him he might be eligible for unemployment.

 

[rockchalk]

I've only worked at Target for about 3 months now and after a month I sent my availability to be available on Tuesday, Thursday and Saturday evenings and any time on Sunday only. It was accepted with no questions asked. They seem to try really hard to give each TM the schedule they desire. I'm thinking about ditching my Saturday shift and being available another weekday evening instead. I'm not sure how that would fly but I need a life! Working 2 jobs isn't easy and a full day off from both would be nice.

 

[tellmeaboutatime]

All of our cashier musts have weekend availability. Our sales floor team must be available either all day Sat or Sun or available for 2 8 hour blocks of time on each weekend day. We work retail. Our business is on the weekends.Thats just the fact. We don't play the make your own schedule game. There are team members that tried that and we shut it down. They would say I can work Mon, Weds and Sat morning, and I want 21 hours a week. So they were basically writing their schedules. The team members who are completely open wind up with the shitty shifts every single week. Our HR is extremely conscious of consistency. If you allow one team member weekends off you have to allow every team member the same. I like the way she runs it.This way everyone works a few weekends a month instead of every single weekend.

 

[Barcode]

All of our cashier musts have weekend availability. Our sales floor team must be available either all day Sat or Sun or available for 2 8 hour blocks of time on each weekend day. We work retail. Our business is on the weekends.Thats just the fact. We don't play the make your own schedule game. There are team members that tried that and we shut it down. They would say I can work Mon, Weds and Sat morning, and I want 21 hours a week. So they were basically writing their schedules. The team members who are completely open wind up with the shitty shifts every single week. Our HR is extremely conscious of consistency. If you allow one team member weekends off you have to allow every team member the same. I like the way she runs it.This way everyone works a few weekends a month instead of every single weekend.

I think with seniority it should be an added perk to be honest.

 

[3LetterDevil]

At my store, anything "higher" than TM is REQUIRED to have open availability. The only exception they will make is if you're in college, and even then, they request that you schedule your classes during the day/during the week. One of our GSAs took a class that ONLY met on Saturday mornings and they had a conniption, even though it was only for 4 or 6 weeks and he was STILL available after 3!

 

[RedMan]

My store won't approve availability change for those positions and they won't promote if you aren't willing to have open availability. Having said that, they certainly have the right to ask him to change his availability even though they originally agreed to it. And he has the right to refuse. And management has the right to performance him out.

 

[Bosch]

My store won't approve availability change for those positions and they won't promote if you aren't willing to have open availability. Having said that, they certainly have the right to ask him to change his availability even though they originally agreed to it. And he has the right to refuse. And management has the right to performance him out.

Its why I work a process team, so I have a basic schedule.

 

[redeye58]

The ones that try the 'build a schedule' at our store get shut down as well. They'll complain about crappy hrs until their skimpy avail is pointed out.
Better to have everyone pick up an occasional weekend & spread the misery instead of foisting it on a few over & over 'til they burn out.

 

[NeoDarikona]

It's a literal drop in the bucket, besides who the hell guarantees even rotated schedules anymore? It sounds like a trap for him, he has everything to lose and nothing to gain.

 

[keynesian]

if I may ask, what is the specific work center? it sounds like market or electronics. I work with plenty of people who have parts of a weekend off but nobody who has a full weekend outside of their availability.

Honestly, when some of our people pulled this stunt on management here is what happened - if they averaged 40 a week before, they would average 32 after that, and someone else would be offered that shift. why couldn't that be done in this particular work center? maybe train a cashier who's bored to do their job or something.

 

[mrknownothing]

if I may ask, what is the specific work center? it sounds like market or electronics. I work with plenty of people who have parts of a weekend off but nobody who has a full weekend outside of their availability.

OP is a GSA.

 

[redandkhaki]

i would never let a gsa have every single saturday or sunday off. It's not fair with the rotating weekends the TL's are on. I had a gsa awhile ago who would request off almost every single weekend until i started denying them and telling her it wasn't fair the other two always had to work weekends. I try to do rotating weekends with the gsa's as well but i only have ONE right now..she gets screwed so as soon as we are staffed again she'll have some weekends off.

 

[IHeartCarts]

There's around 4 people that work in my area at my store. One has Saturdays off, one has Sundays off and one of them is my TL who basically has a set schedule. I really think I should be able to request a day off during the week so I have the tiniest bit of consistency in my life.

 

[sher]

Did he join a church? Or he just demanded it just because?

 

[Bosch]

Did he join a church? Or he just demanded it just because?

Not that it matters, because it doesn't.