Target's 401k plan is very good because the money contributed by target immediately vests to you. A lot of companies can cheat you out of the 401k match if it hasn't vested for one, two or even three years. Check with HR for more details on withdrawals.Is there a vesting period, or would someone who didn't work long own all their funds? If there's no vesting, how long before that money can be accessed? Any other details I should know about?
Anything you contribute to an employer sponsored retirement plan is always 100% vested immediately as it's your money. The vesting schedule only pertains to employer contributions.I'll either have to do an IRA or eat the taxes. My new employer has a vesting period so I don't want to add anything extra until I'm fully vested.
That is correct. The problem is the employer contributions part. 401k plans are regulated by the Federal Govt and I don't know why their rules allow companies to have different "vesting" requirements, the 401k plan is supposed to be an employee BENEFIT and companies obtain a huge break on their corporate income taxes by offering 401k plans and matches. IMHO the rules should be more consistent, the average employee who needs to save in a 401k isn't an attorney or investment specialist and having the employer-matches clawed back during a layoff or dismissal due to lack of vesting leaves a very bad taste in the mouth of many people. We are constantly being told (not by Target specifically, but in the news media) that 401ks are better than the old company pension plans.....Anything you contribute to an employer sponsored retirement plan is always 100% vested immediately as it's your money. The vesting schedule only pertains to employer contributions.
The department of Labor regulates retirement plans and most of the regulations relevant to this discussion come from the Employee Retirement Income Security Act of 1974 (ERISA). That ultimately has set regulation on vesting rules for employer sponsored retirement programs including 401ks and pensions. The maximum pension vesting schedule is actually longer than its 401k counterpart. As to the reasoning of vesting, I can't speak to it with any degree of certainty but intuitively it makes sense when you consider that: 1, employers will be able to offer significantly higher contributions to longer term employees and 2, shorter term employees have a higher tendency to cash out retirement savings rather than reinvest. Ultimately, the goal of these plans is to prepare workers for retirement. That's why the IRS penalizes early withdrawals. One needn't be an attorney or investment specialist to understand the relatively simple rules of vesting. That's more of a shortcoming of our education system (public and private really) that basic financial competency is considered an elective rather than a necessity.That is correct. The problem is the employer contributions part. 401k plans are regulated by the Federal Govt and I don't know why their rules allow companies to have different "vesting" requirements, the 401k plan is supposed to be an employee BENEFIT and companies obtain a huge break on their corporate income taxes by offering 401k plans and matches. IMHO the rules should be more consistent, the average employee who needs to save in a 401k isn't an attorney or investment specialist and having the employer-matches clawed back during a layoff or dismissal due to lack of vesting leaves a very bad taste in the mouth of many people. We are constantly being told (not by Target specifically, but in the news media) that 401ks are better than the old company pension plans.....