Please tell me that what happened to me today isn't the norm across Target stores

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tellmeaboutatime said:
This person called in properly. The HR in this case IMO provoked the situation as it was presented. The OPs mother passed. Zero compassion was shown. If the HR was any good, they would have used the seek to understand process. They also would have asked the LOD if they had any information on the situation. They failed miserably.
Call the HRBP. I would not ask for my job back and I would make that perfectly clear. I would tell them what happened and how it was handled. Honestly nothing much will happen but you will have put it on record so to speak. This is the "new" Target. It hasn't always been like this.
I am so sorry for the loss of your mother. The way you were treated is inexcusable. Not everyone who works or worked for Target is a stone cold bitch like this HR. But sadly it is becoming more common. I wish you peace.
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Thank you for the kind words. They are greatly appreciated.
 
graciebarra81 said:
Considering that you are a socialist, I would not expect you to make reasonable or intelligible arguments anyway.
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Hun, that's actually kind of company policy where you can't just be given off days on someone's word.

I would strongly recommend talking to one of the moderators about changing your username here if it's your real life name.

graciebarra81 said:
Consider the circumstances. My mother passed away 4 days ago, and I have a guy sitting in front of me insinuating that I am lying about her death.

Sort of despicable that this is all you came away with after reading my post.
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Given that I have made numerous other points about this, you can clearly see it's not all I came away with.
 
flow4areasonuno said:
Aaaaaaand it's report time. Seriously, if you want people to help you, try not insulting them.
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Plenty of people have helped me in this thread, and I have thanked them for doing so. The individual you're defending has done nothing but invent ridiculous reasons for why I was the party at fault here, which is quite frankly a ridiculous premise. Your post is short-sighted.
 
Sorry for your loss OP.

First, you were right to call as soon as you were able after you got the news. That call though should have been followed up the next day with a call to HR, or in their absence, the SD. After close to 20 years with Spot, I don't trust anyone to relay critical information for me no matter what they say.

Since you are still in your 90-days I don't think you are eligible for paid bereavement time, but you should have gotten 3-days unpaid.

Lastly, you unfortunately let your emotions get the best of you. It was incredibly dumb to mention anything about going across the desk. Target has a zero tolerance policy on workplace violence. It appears that you weren't going to be terminated before you totally lost your composure. Once you saw where this was headed, you should have offered to show them some proof when it was available (published obit/death certificate), your phone log, and encouraged HR to speak to the LOD you talked to. You then should have talked to that LOD as soon as you both were in the building at the same time to get their story.

If all of that still wasn't enough to get your absences taken off your record, then a call to the HRBP would be in order to report that dick/bitch of an ETL-HR. You could have explained everything to them and offered the above proof you collected. If that didn't work, then a call to the Hotline would be in order.

Again, sorry for your lost, and best of luck finding a new position.
 
I don't care what the circumstances are. You threaten to hit me you don't work for me. You're lucky the cops didn't get involved, because had I been sitting across the desk from you they would have been.

That isn't grief. That's a basic inability to control your emotions in an appropriate manner. When you want someone to do you a favor you don't threaten to hit them to get it. My 5 year old knows better than that.
 
Fluttervale said:
I don't care what the circumstances are. You threaten to hit me you don't work for me. You're lucky the cops didn't get involved, because had I been sitting across the desk from you they would have been.

That isn't grief. That's a basic inability to control your emotions in an appropriate manner. When you want someone to do you a favor you don't threaten to hit them to get it. My 5 year old knows better than that.
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You truly are a POS. Each time you offer commentary on an employee vs Target situation, your response has always been to toe the company line. Absolutely no consideration for human decency, context, etc. It I hadn't lost my temper as many people would have in similar circumstances, you would have singled out some other event in my post to invalidate everything that had happened previously and blame the entire situation on me. It should come as no surprise to you that you are virtually always in the minority in your opinions in these situations. I could have predicted your canned response before you even gave it, based on past comments.

I haven't been here long enough to determine if Target places Bots here to simulate company conformity and support, but if anyone was to ever be suspected of such a thing, it would be you. You are sycophantic slime.
 
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graciebarra81 said:
You truly are a POS. Each time you offer commentary on an employee vs Target situation, your response has always been to toe the company line. Absolutely no consideration for human decency, context, etc. I could have predicted your response before you even gave it, based on past comments.

I haven't been here long enough to determine if Target places Bots here to simulate company conformity and support, but if anyone was to ever be suspected of such a thing, it would be you. You're a piece of human garbage.
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See that? Right there?

That is why you don't have a job.

Until you realize that you need to put in your brain mouth filter, you will continue to be a loser that can't hold down an entry level job.

You won't, because you would rather be right than able to pay your bills. So continue being right.
 
Fluttervale said:
See that? Right there?

That is why you don't have a job.

Until you realize that you need to put in your brain mouth filter, you will continue to be a loser that can't hold down an entry level job.
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People experience grief and suffer through losses and tragedies in different ways. Some people are still able to contain their emotions, some people can't. Some people, when they are burdened with grief, will sometimes say things that they don't really mean. That's human nature. Have some empathy and don't try to pretend that you, on the day your mother passed away, would be showing up to work dutifully asking guests if they'd like to save 5% on their purchase today.

Fluttervale said:
You won't, because you would rather be right than able to pay your bills. So continue being right.
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OBJECTION! Target wages don't pay bills anyway, unless you're a TL, PMT, ETL, STL, DTL, group VP or Cornell himself. The defense rests.
 
At this point, I highly doubt the OPs version of events. The way you’re treating people on this thread is not indicative of some who just lost a loved one.
You’re calling people names , you should be more self reflecting, be kind and value the human life, not insult people who have a difference of opinion.
Target has a business to run and your personal loss is not part of their equation. No, they will not bend the rules for you. You’re still in your probationary period, you probably haven’t even been fully trained yet. Yes, they can fire you for any reason , as you can quit for any reason at aswell.
So quit now, why would a self righteous dude like you wanna work for an immoral company like Target?
It you who’s a POS, not the person you insulted earlier.
 
can't touch this said:
OBJECTION! Target wages don't pay bills anyway, unless you're a TL, PMT, ETL, STL, DTL, group VP or Cornell himself. The defense rests.
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Fuck yeah!!👍
Edit:- dont forget all the pussy the tls,pmts,etls,stls,dtls etc get, fucking drowning in it bruh!!
 
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can't touch this said:
People experience grief and suffer through losses and tragedies in different ways. Some people are still able to contain their emotions, some people can't. Some people, when they are burdened with grief, will sometimes say things that they don't really mean. That's human nature. Have some empathy and don't try to pretend that you, on the day your mother passed away, would be showing up to work dutifully asking guests if they'd like to save 5% on their purchase today.



OBJECTION! Target wages don't pay bills anyway, unless you're a TL, PMT, ETL, STL, DTL, group VP or Cornell himself. The defense rests.
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I didn't say I'd be showing up to work.

I said I wouldn't be threatening to beat people up. And I wouldn't, because I know how to control my temper.
 
Fluttervale said:
I said I wouldn't be threatening to beat people up. And I wouldn't, because I know how to control my temper.
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Imagine calling the cops on someone in mourning over WORDS and wasting law enforcement's time. It's not like they have anything better to do than break up petty slapfights!

Congrats, you can hold a stony poker face through the toughest tribulations. Next you're going to say that you'd be chillin' in peaceful serenity even as the shadow of an approaching giant asteroid looms over the Earth and earthquakes open a deep chasm in your driveway. Like I said, people deal with grief differently, and if you had any empathy at all you would bear that in mind before calling 911.
 
Who else ITT has lost a loved one to cancer, anyway? I have, and let me tell you, the grief begins way sooner than the memorial service.

It's one hell of a trial that can cause even the most "harden the fuck up" types to shed a few tears. It can drag out for years and in the back of your mind you can often just "know" that it's likely going to be fatal even with treatment. You can buy a mansion in Hollywood with what you'll be paying for the treatments that may not even work. Then the doctor tells you and your family that the cancer has returned for the 20th and final time. That means hospice care, a real throwback to the 19th century when a TB diagnosis ("consumption") meant all you could do is update your last will and then climb into bed to await your fate with a bottle of laudanum.

The drama is real. Relatives are stressed and grieving. Money money money money money 24/7. Going through even a few months of that is enough to make most people swing a fist or threaten to. Get over it.
 
Chill out everybody.

I get that this is an emotional thread.

I have had three relatives and two close friends die from cancer.

Fuck cancer.

But we don't insult other members of the board and in a situation like this if we can't be empathetic maybe just don't post.

And I say again, fuck cancer.
 
can't touch this said:
Who else ITT has lost a loved one to cancer, anyway? I have, and let me tell you, the grief begins way sooner than the memorial service.

It's one hell of a trial that can cause even the most "harden the fuck up" types to shed a few tears. It can drag out for years and in the back of your mind you can often just "know" that it's likely going to be fatal even with treatment. You can buy a mansion in Hollywood with what you'll be paying for the treatments that may not even work. Then the doctor tells you and your family that the cancer has returned for the 20th and final time. That means hospice care, a real throwback to the 19th century when a TB diagnosis ("consumption") meant all you could do is update your last will and then climb into bed to await your fate with a bottle of laudanum.

The drama is real. Relatives are stressed and grieving. Money money money money money 24/7. Going through even a few months of that is enough to make most people swing a fist or threaten to. Get over it.
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I lost my Grandpa back in 2016, we were very close and it devastated me. My Dad had picked me up from work that morning, I was doing overnights at the time, and he gave me the news. I immediately went back into the store and told my ETL(he knew my Grandpa was sick as I had to take a few days off two months prior to visit him in a hospital 5 hours away) and he gave me his condolences. I asked if I could be taken off the schedule my following four shifts and he said not a problem. I never followed up or called, and when i came back to work about a week later, all was fine. I can’t say how I would’ve reacted if I met resistance or was in the OP’s shoes, everyone reacts differently. Yeah sure maybe that threat was a bit much but grief affects people in different ways.
 
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