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KimJungUn
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They can have their own restroom.
Transgender and Bathrooms
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They can have their own restroom.
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As the father of two daughters I would have no problem with them using the same bathroom with a transgender person.
They have every right to use the bathroom that matches their gender.
You do realize that the suicide rate for transgender people astronomical, as is the homeless rate and jobless rate?
I work with a number of transgender people at DVR who have serious depression issues.
Mostly because our society does everything it can to shame them and make life as difficult as possible.
Passing laws about bathrooms is just the tip of the iceberg.
These laws also keeps cities and towns in the states from passing equal protection laws and safety zones for transgender people.
Truly evil shit, only perpetrated because they lost the war on gay marriage.
I posted this before but for folks who need a refresher course on gender roles.
They have every right to use the bathroom that matches their gender.
You do realize that the suicide rate for transgender people astronomical, as is the homeless rate and jobless rate?
I work with a number of transgender people at DVR who have serious depression issues.
Mostly because our society does everything it can to shame them and make life as difficult as possible.
Passing laws about bathrooms is just the tip of the iceberg.
These laws also keeps cities and towns in the states from passing equal protection laws and safety zones for transgender people.
Truly evil shit, only perpetrated because they lost the war on gay marriage.
I posted this before but for folks who need a refresher course on gender roles.
So your saying that no one should surgically treat cancer? Cause that is a choice and sometimes a horribly mutilating choice. Not a flippant choice.
You seem to think that these people change gender like you would change your socks and that is so not the case.
You are hung up on the surgery but refuse to acknowledge the reasons for said surgery. That is pretty simplistic and a very incomplete view.
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You say that so casually but since those don't exist, like anywhere, it's not a valid point.
Please come up with a real solution.
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KimJungUn
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Give them, their own restrooms.
He can't.
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KimJungUn
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I just did, you can't read apparently.
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Can you see that happening in the south, where the hatred is almost palpable?
For that matter didn't they have a solution like that back in the old days for folks who didn't want to mix people who weren't their type, who were afraid their children and wives would be raped in the bathrooms?
You know that was the excuse they used for have 'Colored' bathrooms, right?
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You seriously want to compare the situation transsexuals are in to the situation blacks faced? It's not even close.
Blacks were lynched, murdered, segregated... transsexuals don't have anything like that on the scale blacks did.
Why not compare the plight of transsexuals to that of Jews during the Holocaust?
Where? I am still waiting.
And all those things that happened to blacks happens to the transgendered.
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Before a person can undergo gender reassignment, they have to submit to counseling; that's before they even start hormone therapy.
After the counselor is convinced that gender reassignment is recommended, only then can they begin hormone therapy & begin taking the appearance of their 'other' gender.
It's the most awkward & dangerous time for them because of people who believe as you.
There have been countless attacks by men AND women against transitioning people, the most graphic one of several women beating a trans woman because she dared to use the women's restroom at a McDonald's.
Management stood by but did nothing to intervene as she was beaten & kicked until she went into a seizure.
Only then did they call the police - not an ambulance, but the police, as the assailants left.
A former TM who was transitioning was gang-raped walking home one night.
When they are finally cleared to receive reassignment surgery it's like the end of a long race.
As commie pointed out, the suicide rate is astronomical among trans people.
It's hardly a flippant decision to risk so much, including your life/career/family/relationships.
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I'm the bigot? Sorry for being a Christian and following my faith.
Did you watch the video of your tolerant transsexual assaulting a peaceful Trump supporter?
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Sadly, that's not the case.
He just can only see things in binary, black or white, male or female.
The idea of multiple genders is too foreign and until someone in his family, naybe his daughter comes out he won't ever understand or try to.
He is willing to come up with a pie in the sky solution that won't happen though which is better than many people of his ilk who aren't even willing to entertain any solutions.
Yes, yes, I am.
I had family march in the civil rights marches and this is very much the same thing.
Right now there has been a transexual killed every week in Texas and people are getting away with it using the 'surprise' defense.
People are dying, its just not just not getting covered.
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You're using someones gender identity and things one person did demonize a whole group. That's like saying a black person attacked me all black people are all evil thugs. Just because one person did something mallicous doesn't mean all transgender people are evil. How is it being Christian to be unacceping of a group of people? Last time I checked being Christian is not an excuse of to cover up your hatred and intolerance for a group of people.
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Please, show me where I said all Trans people are evil. You made a blanket statement that they're harmless and I'm bashing them. I proved you wrong.
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Why not just have one giant bathroom with separate individual rooms??
Call me weird but, some people are Pee-Shy, I for one am Shit-shy, if that is a thing, and would prefer to do it as far away as possible from a fellow human being, whether they are male, female, or a Fire truck.
Call me weird but, some people are Pee-Shy, I for one am Shit-shy, if that is a thing, and would prefer to do it as far away as possible from a fellow human being, whether they are male, female, or a Fire truck.
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You should re-read your bible. See what it says about these type things.
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This is the last I'll say about this.
I never once said all Trans people are evil, those words were put in my mouth by hateful people who didn't like my opinion.
I'm not comfortable with ANYONE with a penis, using the ladies restroom while my child is in there. I have a right to my opinion and I'll stick to it thanks.
I think America has much bigger problems to worry about than "Trans rights". News flash, straight, gay or trans... as Americans we all share the same rights.
Perhaps instead of worrying about what dress Bruce Jenner wore to a Hollywood event, we should worry about real issues.
Terrorism
Economic stability
Illegal immigration
True threats to America.
I never once said all Trans people are evil, those words were put in my mouth by hateful people who didn't like my opinion.
I'm not comfortable with ANYONE with a penis, using the ladies restroom while my child is in there. I have a right to my opinion and I'll stick to it thanks.
I think America has much bigger problems to worry about than "Trans rights". News flash, straight, gay or trans... as Americans we all share the same rights.
Perhaps instead of worrying about what dress Bruce Jenner wore to a Hollywood event, we should worry about real issues.
Terrorism
Economic stability
Illegal immigration
True threats to America.
redeye58
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Something legislators should heed when passing laws to restrict said rights.
redeye58
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North Carolina says 'hi':
NC passes bill to stop local laws that prohibit discrimination
And Mississippi:
Mississippi religious freedom bill signed into law
NC passes bill to stop local laws that prohibit discrimination
And Mississippi:
Mississippi religious freedom bill signed into law
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I won't be dragged back into a lengthy debate, but I'll say this...
These laws aren't discriminatory, they're designed to protect the rights of people from being forced to do something against their religious beliefs.
There's nothing stopping people from finding a different business that will accommodate their wishes. It is illegal to force a privately held business from performing a service that would violate their religious beliefs.
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The Mississippi law goes further in allowing those in state positions to deny services to people based on their 'faith'.
Entirely different from someone 'finding a different business that will accommodate their wishes'.
When it's a state agency that is allowing their employees the right to deny services (issuing marriage licenses, etc) to the public because of their personal beliefs, those employees should be the ones to find a job that will accommodate their beliefs.
Entirely different from someone 'finding a different business that will accommodate their wishes'.
When it's a state agency that is allowing their employees the right to deny services (issuing marriage licenses, etc) to the public because of their personal beliefs, those employees should be the ones to find a job that will accommodate their beliefs.
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