Transgender and Bathrooms

[BigEyedPhish]

you mean his beliefs and self identity had no basis in reality and therefore shouldn't have to be honored?

I think it's because he's not a Target employee.

 

[invictustaylor]

okay good....now apply that very same logic to.....

 

[invictustaylor]

I really don't understand what point people think they are proving when they walk into a target to "protest" this. The woman who yelled at me must feel so much better because she took it out on a TM right? Trans people have every right to be respected and to be able to use the bathroom of the gender they are now. He is mocking that. Everyone is immediately jumping to rape and molestation being the next step. Trans people don't feel safe no matter the bathroom they use. All it takes is one bigot like you to jump them because "they don't belong." That is complete bullshit. The people who will abuse this have already done so. I believe there was a link posted of a man posing as a woman from bACK IN 2014! Criminals don't suddenly think the dress silhouette was a forcefield that is now lifted.

maybe i don't feel safe. all it takes is one bigot hater like you to call me a bigot.

 

[RedMan]

I think it's because he's not a Target employee.

I think it's because he's an asshole.

 

[BigEyedPhish]

okay good....now apply that very same logic to.....

Using a Jedi Mind Trick, because you self Identify as a Jedi Master.

The fact is, you are either a Target employee or you aren't. I have a dick, and am not transgender, nor have I ever been, so I have no clue what in the fuck that is even like.

It is something I cannot really fathom, therefore I'll take another person's first hand perspective on the issue, and at least try and have empathy.

I am in the ball park of just having one huge bathroom, where everyone gets their own room (actual single bathroom, rather than Stall).

I'd also like to point out how many times you, yourself, have probably shared a bathroom with a registered sex offender, and probably didn't know it, and if you wanted to know, you would have no way of finding out, why has this issue never been raised?

The one way of solving this problem is to turn the women's bathrooms into Single isolated rooms.

For the HUGE problem of women sneaking into the men's room to take a picture of all of our penis's I am at a loss, at this point all we can hope for is that she likes what she sees.

 

[brizzy93]

maybe i don't feel safe. all it takes is one bigot hater like you to call me a bigot.

Frankly, I don't care if you don't feel safe. That doesn't give you the right to discriminate.

 

[invictustaylor]

Frankly, I don't care if you don't feel safe. That doesn't give you the right to discriminate.

isn't having seperate bathrooms for people to self identify with segregation and discrimination?

 

[brizzy93]

isn't having seperate bathrooms for people to self identify with segregation and discrimination?

It is when you start telling people which bathroom they can and can't use. Gendered bathrooms are all a social construct. Like pink is for girls, and blue for boys. Or how girls are always emotional, and men can't cry. And it is all bulllllshit.

 

[RedMan]

isn't having separate bathrooms for people to self identify with segregation and discrimination?

Who suggested separate restrooms? The policy is that you may use the restroom with which you identify. No discrimination or segregation there. If you choose to go to a gender neutral restroom, thqat's on you.

Oh, I see. I misinterpreted your statement. You believe that having male/female restrooms is segregation and discrimination? Segregation, yes, because of social construct. Discrimination, no.

 

[brizzy93]

Now let's remember how black kids were told they couldn't go to the same schools as white kids. Or drink from the same fountains. That is segregation.

 

[brizzy93]

Society is progressing! Keep up or be left behind.

 

[invictustaylor]

See the state the economy in, soon the

food supply gonna be thin
Honestly men are out here tryna be women now when women wanna be men
Child molesting and prostitution, multiple drug use and water pollution
Educational system losing, watch the news, it's mass confusion

 

[BigEyedPhish]

See the state the economy in, soon the

food supply gonna be thin
Honestly men are out here tryna be women now when women wanna be men
Child molesting and prostitution, multiple drug use and water pollution
Educational system losing, watch the news, it's mass confusion

I love this...

The sad part is with history in my rear-view mirror, we are probably living in the most peaceful time in the last 100 years.

 

[invictustaylor]

I love this...

The sad part is with history in my rear-view mirror, we are probably living in the most peaceful time in the last 100 years.

yeah but i do believe there is a war going on for the human mind. this guy k rino talks a lot about it and the grand deception that satan is trying to pull. part of it is to corrupt god's creation by blurring the lines between man and woman, and hollywood and entertainment has a big hand in the propaganda, and i see the bathroom issue at target as an extention of a much bigger and more important issue...

 

[NPC]

I've been getting a few guests and just people in general whom mention that our restrooms are "unisex." Where the fuck is that coming from? It's one thing to just not understand the situation....but if I correct you, and tell you, "Our bathrooms aren't unisex" and you still chose to think that they are because it's easier, then you're a fucking moron.

I don't understand why people can't just say "I don't know" rather than invent an opinion out of thin air just for the sake of having an opinion.

 

[RedMan]

I've been getting a few guests and just people in general whom mention that our restrooms are "unisex." Where the fuck is that coming from? It's one thing to just not understand the situation....but if I correct you, and tell you, "Our bathrooms aren't unisex" and you still chose to think that they are because it's easier, then you're a fucking moron.

I don't understand why people can't just say "I don't know" rather than invent an opinion out of thin air just for the sake of having an opinion.

Because the truth is boring.

 

[NPC]

 

[BigEyedPhish]

Dude, shut the fuck up and go watch some TV or something. You're being a fool. Not because of what you're saying, but because you're treating non serious replies as serious, and you're supporting the derailing of this thread.

Sorry to hijack the thread, but it seemed like it was taking a turn for the personal and needed a good hijacking so we could all feel like idiots together.

 

[NPC]

Dude, and I'm a dudette, if you don't wish to read it, go watch TV or something.

I don't care about what goodies you keep in your pants. I care about the lack of discussion over Target's Bathroom Policy, which is the whole point of this thread. So unless you can somehow explain the worth of replying to OBVIOUS trollish comments rather than discuss the actual topic here, please, I'm all ears.

 

[BigEyedPhish]

I don't care about what goodies you keep in your pants. I care about the lack of discussion over Target's Bathroom Policy, which is the whole point of this thread. So unless you can somehow explain the worth of replying to OBVIOUS trollish comments rather than discuss the actual topic here, please, I'm all ears.

The first thing everyone needs to realize, is that this will be a discussion that is never going to end. Whether somebody makes a good point or not, it is a topic that you will likely never change someones mind on.

As long as we all have feet a few of them are ALWAYS going to be stepped on.

 

[BigEyedPhish]

not everybody has feet!

Awe shit.

 

[NPC]

The first thing everyone needs to realize, is that this will be a discussion that is never going to end. Whether somebody makes a good point or not, it is a topic that you will likely never change someones mind on.

As long as we all have feet a few of them are ALWAYS going to be stepped on.

Probably not. But I have lots of questions I want to pose here over the matter, specifically scenarios I want to be prepared for when guests bring them up. Those topics are getting lost because they're less fun to talk about.

 

[invictustaylor]

Probably not. But I have lots of questions I want to pose here over the matter, specifically scenarios I want to be prepared for when guests bring them up. Those topics are getting lost because they're less fun to talk about.

ask away and i will do my best to answer them from my point of view.

 

[dannyy315]

@Target NPC What you should do first is hit the ignore button on @invictustaylor

Then, ask your questions and everyone who isn't a troll will try their best to answer them.

 

[NPC]

Well, besides the "script" that Target has sort of given TMs to use when guests ask about the bathroom policy...how much can we get away with in discussing the issues with the guests? I can't even remember the script I was told. So when guests ask me about it, I just tell them my own wording and perception, as politely as I can.

Also, what about cases where a guest tries to be an asshole about it? Like let's say a guy comes in saying he wants to use the women's restroom? What do we do in that case? I'm thinking, can I say, "If you identify as a women, then yes, of course, you're welcome to use the women's restroom, Ma'am." I'd also refer to him as ma'am if he decided to use the women's room. Is that appropriate? Basically calling their bluff?