Archived I called out on Christmas Eve.

[signingminion]

Got 36 hours we still need more TMs trained to do pfresh, only 2 PAs and not enough with 2 days off a week for each of us. Pfresh is what us going to make the most sales for the store from now till Easter.

I've fought hard to make sure my hours don't dip every year for this very reason. Veg doesn't stay fresher because we have less hours to cull it. Plus I finally convinced my tl that if he cuts my hours he had to cut the other pa to match, and he'd throw a fit that would make a2yr old proud so it doesn't happen.

 

[Inception]

HR in my store and other tm as well have said that hours are cut to 15 hrs average. Yet, I got 38 and I'm still under my 90 days and I'm salesfloor Hardlines . Other people have been telling me they only got 20 hrs and we have the same availability. I thought the schedule was automatic, but apparently our ETL Hardlines makes modifications.

 

[mrknownothing]

Got 36 hours we still need more TMs trained to do pfresh, only 2 PAs and not enough with 2 days off a week for each of us. Pfresh is what us going to make the most sales for the store from now till Easter.

Can I transfer to your store? It would be nice to get more than single-digit hours.

 

[thatcashierdude]

HR in my store and other tm as well have said that hours are cut to 15 hrs average. Yet, I got 38 and I'm still under my 90 days and I'm salesfloor Hardlines . Other people have been telling me they only got 20 hrs and we have the same availability. I thought the schedule was automatic, but apparently our ETL Hardlines makes modifications.

They might have been with the store longer/different paygrade and thus are getting paid more than you, this way they can save payroll $ rather than hours. Or they just like you more.

 

[Inception]

HR in my store and other tm as well have said that hours are cut to 15 hrs average. Yet, I got 38 and I'm still under my 90 days and I'm salesfloor Hardlines . Other people have been telling me they only got 20 hrs and we have the same availability. I thought the schedule was automatic, but apparently our ETL Hardlines makes modifications.

They might have been with the store longer/different paygrade and thus are getting paid more than you, this way they can save payroll $ rather than hours. Or they just like you more.

Doubt they are getting paid more than me. I started at 9.50 and now raised to 10. If said senior tm had been under 10, she wouldn't be raised 50 cents, but just to 10.

 

[Retail Girl]

I checked with hr today. Despite calling off for the 24th, I will get my pay for Christmas Day.

So there you go.

 

[dctarget]

new schedules up i got cutf rom 32 to 19 im going to be checking the swap shift board

 

[Noiinteam]

One of the flow tm's who has been there a long time, went to our STL complaining about lack of hrs. Went right on the computer and gave hin 40 hrs. Glad for him. He's not a slacker.

 

[tellmeaboutatime]

Just wait until the mandatory 4 hour cashier shifts and 4 hour flow shifts are company wide.

 

[Kartman]

It'll be 'aight.

 

[Retail Girl]

Just wait until the mandatory 4 hour cashier shifts and 4 hour flow shifts are company wide.

The cashier shifts are nearly there. My store was a hold out, and they told them back in October they had to stop dragging their feet and start cutting the shifts up. So they did, but then re-expanded them for the period after Black Friday to Christmas. Next week nearly all cashier shifts are back to 4 to 4.5 hours.

My ETL said this is not only for lunch coverage but because they want fresh cashiers who can help guests and not be burning them up and being cranky after 8 hours.

First, we are adults...if we can act like adults and suck it up and do our job, there is no reason there can't be longer cashier shifts. Second, if they want to keep the cashiering at four hours, let those who want to then pick up another four hours in a different department.

Geniuses.

 

[Kartman]

Anyone that can only work in a cashier position = you suck.

And I mean that in a nice way. 🙂

 

[commiecorvus]

Just wait until the mandatory 4 hour cashier shifts and 4 hour flow shifts are company wide.

The cashier shifts are nearly there. My store was a hold out, and they told them back in October they had to stop dragging their feet and start cutting the shifts up. So they did, but then re-expanded them for the period after Black Friday to Christmas. Next week nearly all cashier shifts are back to 4 to 4.5 hours.

My ETL said this is not only for lunch coverage but because they want fresh cashiers who can help guests and not be burning them up and being cranky after 8 hours.

First, we are adults...if we can act like adults and suck it up and do our job, there is no reason there can't be longer cashier shifts. Second, if they want to keep the cashiering at four hours, let those who want to then pick up another four hours in a different department.

Geniuses.

This makes no sense at all.
I worked for grocery stores where there were cashiers who got regular 38 hour weeks and nobody said "Oh, we can't do that! They'll be to cranky and burned out."
Now granted they were union, had health benefits, retirement, and were paid from $12 to $16 an hour more than 15 years ago but what can I say?

 

[Kartman]

There are other jobs to do in the store beside cashiering. After 4 hours of doing that, I'm ready to finish my shift doing something else. I get at least 35 hours a week, if not more.

But then again... I'm Kartman! 😉

 

[redcharmander10]

Yes working the holiday sucks and target is exploitive of their workforce. But you know what rubs me the wrong way about the OP? The smarmy, holier than thou tone and implication that those of us who worked that day were prioritizing target above our families.

That's just wrong and offensive. And if you expect a medal for "sticking it to the man" (by foisting off more work onto your coworkers,) you're just not going to get it. Sorry.

Holier than thou? Implying the people who came to work that night don't share my priorities? Really? I don't know your situations. Some of you have mountains of bills to pay, rent to pay, children to support. I'm well past my 90, and don't have as many responsibilities in my life as other TMs so I could afford to miss ONE day of work.

This.

Here's two scenarios:

1.) I call off Dec 24th, I come in Dec 26th, act as if nothing happened.

2.) I call off Dec 24th. I come in Dec 26th and brag to all my coworkers that I called off and wasn't really sick, and then wonder why those who showed up aren't as enthusiastic about it as I am.

Guess which one is closer to what the OP did?

Y'all probably guessed wrong. I haven't mentioned it to anyone at work...as much as I thought I would.

No, OP said he called out to spend time with family because he couldn't fine someone to take his shift.

The people who pledge their lives to target are usually the ones still working the 15 years later at the TM level. Your life doesn't revolve around them

This.

This is what they should do. Everyone's life is different (sometimes year to year or day vs. evening) - for those who don't celebrate, working Christmas Eve is like working any other day. For some others, working Christmas Eve is an inconvenience but not a huge deal. For others, it's missing a major family holiday. Fill the schedule with the first group, supplement with the second and if the store still needs people, only then should they move on to the third group.

Honestly, there's a whole segment of our store who probably want to be gone from the store on NYE by 5pm so they can get ready for the night. I could care less and would have closed in a heartbeat - but no one asked. I'm sure I'll end up switching with someone, but the fact is - they should have looked for volunteers and NYE isn't nearly as big an issue as Christmas Eve.

On point. In the Hispanic culture, Christmas is celebrated on the night of Christmas Eve. So if I were to work, I would be missing a major family holiday with family I only see a few times a year - some cousins I only get to see once or twice a year because:

One lives two hours away.
One goes to college out-of-state.
One goes to college on the other side of the state.

Have I explained myself enough?

 

[redeye58]

Anyone that can only work in a cashier position = you suck.

And I mean that in a nice way. 🙂

Like hell you do.
There are folk at my store who ONLY cashier because they can withstand the barrage of crap guests dish out: the scammers, the uber-couponers, the mom with the screaming kids (one of which just threw up in your lane), the bombastic blowhards who try to intimidate, the ones who leave trash on your belt or hand you gooey toys that they used to entertain their devil spawn, etc.
They'll charm the rudest guests into signing up for a red card, they'll train the un-trainable (after all if you can't cashier, they send you to the salesfloor), they'll help out the back-ups who don't cashier enough to know how to do a tax-exempt purchase, they'll go out to help salesfloor but will ALWAYS come back to cashier when needed.
Yeh, some suck but they'd suck just about anywhere you send them.

 

[Nauzhror]

This.

Here's two scenarios:

1.) I call off Dec 24th, I come in Dec 26th, act as if nothing happened.

2.) I call off Dec 24th. I come in Dec 26th and brag to all my coworkers that I called off and wasn't really sick, and then wonder why those who showed up aren't as enthusiastic about it as I am.

Guess which one is closer to what the OP did?

Y'all probably guessed wrong. I haven't mentioned it to anyone at work...as much as I thought I would.

I was referring to your actions on this forum, not at work.

 

[Retail Girl]

There are other jobs to do in the store beside cashiering. After 4 hours of doing that, I'm ready to finish my shift doing something else. I get at least 35 hours a week, if not more.

But then again... I'm Kartman! 😉

Actually, while I have some cashiers who we would prefer not to inflict on other parts of the store, we have some cashiers that are very good (doing everything @redeye58 mentioned) and know their strength and desire is cashiering and want to stay there. Frankly, I think that's great. It means others who don't like cashiering are freed up to do other things in the store. Everyone has different interests, and there's nothing wrong with that. We ought not to be punishing those who choose to cashier with shorter shifts, just because we can.

 

[Retail Girl]

Interestingly enough...I never call out. So when I called out the last two days before Christmas, the leadership team was genuinely concerned. They told me to stop apologizing and wanted to be sure I was okay and said it wouldn't be held against me. The fact I came back with a cough and a scratchy voice likely didn't hurt.

Another TM called out on a random day after Christmas (not the day after) and everyone immediately started grumbling convinced that this TM wasn't actually sick. And this TM doesn't have a horrible attendance record, but it isn't stellar, either.

 

[Nauzhror]

Actually, while I have some cashiers who we would prefer not to inflict on other parts of the store

I don't think my store does actually. We do have a cart attendant I'd describe as such though. Also a few girls that work in softlines. Oh, I lied, we do have one young female cashier who would do absolutely no work whatsoever if there wasn't a supervisor constantly watching her, so I guess we wouldn't want to have her do anything else. Personally though for her I'd much rather she just be termed than have to deal with her at all. Alas, way way past 90 day mark so that's unlikely to happen.

 

[lovecats]

Anyone that can only work in a cashier position = you suck.

And I mean that in a nice way. 🙂

Like hell you do.
There are folk at my store who ONLY cashier because they can withstand the barrage of crap guests dish out: the scammers, the uber-couponers, the mom with the screaming kids (one of which just threw up in your lane), the bombastic blowhards who try to intimidate, the ones who leave trash on your belt or hand you gooey toys that they used to entertain their devil spawn, etc.
They'll charm the rudest guests into signing up for a red card, they'll train the un-trainable (after all if you can't cashier, they send you to the salesfloor), they'll help out the back-ups who don't cashier enough to know how to do a tax-exempt purchase, they'll go out to help salesfloor but will ALWAYS come back to cashier when needed.
Yeh, some suck but they'd suck just about anywhere you send them.

We had one cashier at my former ( wow, I just love saying that 😀) Target that had absolutely no desire to do anything else. She was extremely good at what she did. But myself I couldn't wait to get off the checklanes.

 

[Kartman]

All I was saying was it's not a good idea knowing only how to work in only one position.

 

[redeye58]

But if someone excelled in that one area & sucked in other areas, would you begrudge them for not being global?

 

[commiecorvus]

All I was saying was it's not a good idea knowing only how to work in only one position.

I can see your point, after all Robert Heinlein, the great science fiction writer said,
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet, balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders, give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem, pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die gallantly. Specialization is for insects."

But there was also a time when the stores had specialists.
People who knew their department inside and out.
They worked in shoes, media, cosmetics, etc.
If you needed to know where something was, how much it cost, when it would be in, what the right fixtures where, anything, they knew.
It hurt the stores a lot when Spot decided the few pennies more a month the specialists was too much.
It's well worth having a cashier who knows every detail of their job down to just how to thump the side of the cash register to get it to work properly.
The stores need more of those people.

 

[Kartman]

Everyone should be a specialist in the position they were hired for. I am a FA specialist. However, I'd a certified (LOL) cart attendant, a cashier, and I can work hardlines.

My favorite is cart attendant. I love that shit! Rounding up those wacky carts and keeping the store looking good! Who could ask for moar???