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I still have no idea what this is about can someone explain the entire issue. I don’t understand anything about this forum.
I wanted to, but when they found out my IQ had three digits they told me I was overqualified.I personally don’t get why some of you guys don’t want to unionize.
I worked in healthcare for many years before i hurt my back doing the job and was part of a union. They sucked. Maybe it was that union but they were defintely in the owner of the facility i worked at's pocket. Everytime contract negotiations came around they would hold a meeting trying to convince the employee's to take crappier & crappier deals like less of a % paid towards healthcare or less of a raise by saying its this or nothing.
I dont think retail workers need to unionize. Also i dont want to give up 2-3% to unionize when retail is not guaranteed hours unless your in management.
It's not unions that suck. It's the people in the unions who can suck. Unions are what you make of them. Unions are your fellow members and YOU. Don't like what leadership is telling you? Vote them out or vote to decertify and form a different union. Don't like the deal that you are getting in negotiations? Vote to reject it.
Did you like growing up not having to work in a factory or mine before you were a teenager? Thank unions for that. They fought for it. Do you like that there is a 40 hour workweek and bosses can't make you work longer for no extra pay? Thank unions for that. Before unions went on massive strikes over the issue, the average American worker put in over 60 hours a week. Guess who came up with the idea for employer paid healthcare, vacation and sick leave? Unions. Like FMLA? Unions were the ones who pushed it through.
If that's not enough for you, as of December 2011 (I'm lazy and those are the offical Dept. of Labor Stats I could find) service industry, which includes retail, workers in unions averaged $19.83 an hour. Those not in unions averaged $10.54 an hour. But, hey Target has promised to eventually pay $15 an hour if modernization doesn't drive you out by the time they fulfill the promise. So, really, who needs a union when we have it so great at Spot?
Shame about not having a union here, an engine fell out of a car into the mine I was backstocking in and I got black lung from being trapped in the stockroom.
Retail doesn't need unions. Promote or find something better
What if I told you that you could have a union to guarantee hours as part of the bargaining.
Retail hours fluctuate based on payroll, right? So if I get 32 hours a week during quarter 4 and about 20 hours a week during the slow times, I am NOT getting the guaranteed 32 hours for the entire year under a bargaining agreement.
They would probably come to some average number so it evens out over the length of the fiscal year.
Unions like to paint a glorious picture of the utopia they provide. The companies like to paint a detailed version of hell if a union is allowed to come in. From my personal experience, it’s a combination of both.
Retail doesn't need unions. Promote or find something better
Didn't know retail places did this. News to me.Oh, don't like working in a sweatshop where they lock the doors so you can't leave. Then, when the place catches on fire, you die.
Retail hours fluctuate based on payroll, right? So if I get 32 hours a week during quarter 4 and about 20 hours a week during the slow times, I am NOT getting the guaranteed 32 hours for the entire year under a bargaining agreement.
They would probably come to some average number so it evens out over the length of the fiscal year.
Unions like to paint a glorious picture of the utopia they provide. The companies like to paint a detailed version of hell if a union is allowed to come in. From my personal experience, it’s a combination of both.
Didn't know retail places did this. News to me.
Lots of things happened in the past. How would a retail worker union solve the fire hazard issue beyond the rules Target already has in place?It happened in the past. But, with the way I've seen our fire tunnels blocked, they might as well b ed locked. You've never heard of the Triangle Fire?
Lots of things happened in the past. How would a retail worker union solve the fire hazard issue beyond the rules Target already has in place?
Our "modernization" is based on some of the practices that Kroger has been using for years 😕I don't see Kroger going through job eliminatio- oops, I mean "modernization". Just saying.
Unions have worker safety committees to ensure that safety rules are enforced, through OSHA if necessary.Lots of things happened in the past. How would a retail worker union solve the fire hazard issue beyond the rules Target already has in place?
AP has a list of injury types that must be reported to OSHA. If a TM gets hurt and AP doesn't report it, I imagine that will be quite the slap on the wrist if the TM pursues some form of escalation.Unions have worker safety committees to ensure that safety rules are enforced, through OSHA if necessary.
Before we begin this deep discussion... I want what you're smoking. Not a lot - just enought for a good buzz. I entertain pipe dreams way better when buzzed.What if I told you that you could have a union to guarantee hours as part of the bargaining.
AP has a list of injury types that must be reported to OSHA. If a TM gets hurt and AP doesn't report it, I imagine that will be quite the slap on the wrist if the TM pursues some form of escalation.
I can report safety issues to leadership then OSHA if needed without a union.Unions have worker safety committees to ensure that safety rules are enforced, through OSHA if necessary.
Have you ever walked an OSHA visit or even a Steritech visit?Oh. A slap on the wrist. Will they get their allowance taken away too?