Attendance points

[JohnSith373]

Do the sick hours we currently have go toward this attendance point system or are all starting fresh with the same amount of points?

It’s probably the same way with punch correction. If the sick hours are submitted for a day that has points, it’ll be null and void

 

[employee 626]

Guys, I have found photo evidence of this

 

[BKop16]

If an absence is 1 pt and a late/leave early is a 1/4 then 12 pts in a rolling 12 month period is insanely generous. I'm sure people will still complain.

 

[employee 626]

Apparently calling out within the hour of your shift costs points. I really hope not

 

[Hal]

.25 points if you're 8 or more minutes late

1 point if you call in and don't backfill with sick time

3 points if you NCNS (meaning you either don't show up or don't call in until 2 hours past your shift start time)

3 points is a conversation

5 points is a conduct CA (meaning its no longer performance and you can still job change or transfer)

9 is a final

12 is a term

That means you can be late to work 48 times (and not have any sick time to cover it meaning you can do a lot more) in a year before you get fired.

Two consecutive days counts as 1 occurrence. So either you need to miss 12 days in a year after burning through all your sick time. Or 24 days if you call in two days at a time.

This is insanely generous. Also everyone is starting at zero points. So people at the cusp of being termed are getting a fresh start.

 

[YugTegrat]

I'm curious to see how it all pans out. There are a lot of leaders in my district that are habitually late. I can't imagine the ETLs and SDs would just allow them to be termed because of it.

 

[SigningLady]

I'm curious to see how it all pans out. There are a lot of leaders in my district that are habitually late. I can't imagine the ETLs and SDs would just allow them to be termed because of it.

I'm curious about this too. A lot of our TLs come in late as a way of cutting trending OT.

 

[HInbound]

I'm curious about this too. A lot of our TLs come in late as a way of cutting trending OT.

We do this too, but our ETL's/HR also change our start times so we're not actually late...

 

[employee 626]

We do this too, but our ETL's/HR also change our start times so we're not actually late...

Maybe they will watch that as well

 

[HInbound]

Maybe they will watch that as well

Doubtful.

Care to explain why you think that keeping your employees from working more than 40 hours is a bad thing?

 

[employee 626]

Doubtful.

Care to explain why you think that keeping your employees from working more than 40 hours is a bad thing?

It’s the fact that they need to cut hours in the first place. Maybe corporate will be more strict on following the schedule

 

[FlowTeamChick]

Care to explain why you think that keeping your employees from working more than 40 hours is a bad thing?

Not going to try and say it's a good thing, but when I worked salaried jobs, it was normal at certain times of year. One of those jobs offered comp time (being allowed day/s off equal to the number of hours over 40 without using accrued vacation or personal time), but not all of them did.

Just part of the job. Which could lead to burn-out and did sometimes.

 

[Rarejem]

Can you lose points by being extra good? Do you reset at some point or do they keep accruing until you die?

 

[SigningLady]

Can you lose points by being extra good? Do you reset at some point or do they keep accruing until you die?

My HR gave the example of if at the start of this in September you get a point and don't receive any other points for 365 days, when the next September rolls around that point will drop off. If you'd also gained 2 points in April, those points would stay until the following April. Kind of a rolling calendar.

 

[HInbound]

It’s the fact that they need to cut hours in the first place. Maybe corporate will be more strict on following the schedule

Some of us work in really high volume stores, and sometimes we gotta stay a little bit extra to make sure the work gets done so the store is ready to open in the morning. We're never super far over, maybe an hour at worst, 2 in extreme weeks, so cutting an hour or so off the beginning of the shift when we have 3 Inbound leaders to cover unload anyway isn't something to stress about.

None of us are upset that we have to stay late sometimes, and if someone has to leave on time because of kids, etc. they do. We get no guilt trips from our ETLs because they understand the work-life balance and make sure we don't burn ourselves out. We love our store and it's upper management and do whatever we need to make it happen.

ASANTS.

 

[HInbound]

Not going to try and say it's a good thing, but when I worked salaried jobs, it was normal at certain times of year. One of those jobs offered comp time (being allowed day/s off equal to the number of hours over 40 without using accrued vacation or personal time), but not all of them did.

Just part of the job. Which could lead to burn-out and did sometimes.

I'm not salary. During Q4 heavy weeks, I can push upwards of 60+ hours taking 4-5 trucks a night. We get nudged heavily to taking a week vacation after Q4 is over to reset from all the craziness we go through. Our store is big on work-life balance, and making sure its leadership is in the right space to handle the workload.

Our ETLs get comp days when they put in heavy hours (scheduled 50 IIRC).

 

[JohnSith373]

3 points is a conversation

5 points is a conduct CA (meaning its no longer performance and you can still job change or transfer)

9 is a final

12 is a term

That means you can be late to work 48 times (and not have any sick time to cover it meaning you can do a lot more) in a year before you get fired.

Two consecutive days counts as 1 occurrence. So either you need to miss 12 days in a year after burning through all your sick time. Or 24 days if you call in two days at a time.

This is insanely generous. Also everyone is starting at zero points. So people at the cusp of being termed are getting a fresh start.

Can a TMs ETL, with or without ETL-HR/HRBP approval, be able to term for attendance without the necessary amount of points? Say they somehow accumulate 10 points within a short time like a month or so, it would sound reasonable to term them already due to the unreliability.

.25 points if you're 8 or more minutes late

Does that mean key carriers have to wait at the door 8 minutes after shift time instead of 5 minutes?