Store Paygrades

Krissfak said:
This really has not been worth 17/hr. Can anyone tell me how this pay change is going to affect my raise in april? I know theres a higher cap but are there higher bumps now?
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I can't see them increasing the raise amount, but as long as they keep it as a percentage and you get the highest score, your raise amount will keep increasing as your pay increases.

The base pay raises will eventually catch up and you'll be making the same as a newly hired TL, but you'd be making $19-20 per hour by then, which is pretty high for hourly management in retail.
 
I am totally pissed off. I have been working at Target for 4 years. The past year I have been working at Starbucks. 8 months ago they gave me a new name tag, that under my name says trainer. (Wow!) I am older than my other team members in Starbucks and have been there the longest. I train, do the ordering, do ALL the deep cleaning, so pretty much I run Starbucks. When other team members are messing up, I hear about it and pretty much have to deal with it. Yesterday while talking with the newest barista on the team, I find out that he makes 11.50 per hour. Guess what? So am I! Been there 4 years and make the same as someone who has been there 4 months..what do I do?
 
Starbucksgirl said:
I am totally pissed off. I have been working at Target for 4 years. The past year I have been working at Starbucks. 8 months ago they gave me a new name tag, that under my name says trainer. (Wow!) I am older than my other team members in Starbucks and have been there the longest. I train, do the ordering, do ALL the deep cleaning, so pretty much I run Starbucks. When other team members are messing up, I hear about it and pretty much have to deal with it. Yesterday while talking with the newest barista on the team, I find out that he makes 11.50 per hour. Guess what? So am I! Been there 4 years and make the same as someone who has been there 4 months..what do I do?
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First off, Age has NOTHING to do with your pay. I was promoted to TL very young, I've worked my ass off, completely turned around my departments routines & now have double digit green comps & metrics all around. I've been told I go above & beyond & sometimes far enough that I take care of what most would consider ETL responsibilites. Half of my team members are older than me. 99% Of tl/Etls in the store are older than me. Should they get paid more because of that?? NO.

With that aside, I think you need to realize you are in a tm position and work for a large corporation. There are core roles set for each position, any tm who goes above and beyond with performing these roles will see a higher raise come yearly reviews in April. So yes, deff make sure to mention these at review time.

If you truly are going above and beyond you will be compensated for this st review time but if base pay goes up again, you will most likely be right back to the same pay as those new tms. That is just how corporations like this work.

If you truly feel like your team is not holding their own you need to have a conversation with your tl about accountability. It isnt fair for one tm to pick up all the slack. Perhaps you should start thinking about taking on a new role. Are you in the pipeline? This would ve a good opportunity for you to step up and come up with a solution. What areas are you crosstrained in? Have you approached any leaders on your development? Try to find out what areas you can train in for better compensation. When I was a sbux tm I was able to get FSA pay because I was crosstrained in both sbux and foodave. Now that role is gone so should be equivalent to FA pay. I'm sure it is a pay raise of some sort. Look into it. Workbench is full of resources if a leader cant/won't help
 
I don't think Starbucksgirl is implying that her age has anything to do with it; just that she's been there 4 years & is now making as much as someone who's been there 4 months.
I agree that she should point out everything she does if the TL doesn't include it in review, tho.
 
Thank you both for your input. I never once thought anything about my age.. just the time I have been there. I will consider both of your ideas and thanks for the support. I did talk to a etl and next step is talking with human resources and manager.
 
REDcardJJ said:
I still think that more money is better for every TM, regardless of tenure. I think it's important to lift up everyone.
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It's the tenured team members that aren't getting any more money that's a problem. I've earned .17 from base pay goin up over 8 years. The other 3.83 I reserved through promotions and merit raises. Nobody lifted me up...
 
signingminion said:
It's the tenured team members that aren't getting any more money that's a problem. I've earned .17 from base pay goin up over 8 years. The other 3.83 I reserved through promotions and merit raises. Nobody lifted me up...
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You make more now than you did then. It's not new people are coming in making MORE than you.
 
REDcardJJ said:
You make more now than you did then. It's not new people are coming in making MORE than you.
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Style, electronics and beauty are the paygrade above mine. I will make base, they will make over base. So yes most new team members we hire will make more than me... and I fucking earned that pay, it wasn't handed to me as a PR stunt to drive consumer loyalty to create investor gains.
 
signingminion said:
Style, electronics and beauty are the paygrade above mine. I will make base, they will make over base. So yes most new team members we hire will make more than me... and I fucking earned that pay, it wasn't handed to me as a PR stunt to drive consumer loyalty to create investor gains.
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It's apples and oranges. A new TM in YOUR job would not be making more than you. If you want to have a discussion about how unfair the new paygrades are (they are unfair), that's a different conversation.

A higher base pay is better for everyone. You are very likely making more now than you were this time last year, or you will be after the next wage increase.
 
REDcardJJ said:
It's apples and oranges. A new TM in YOUR job would not be making more than you. If you want to have a discussion about how unfair the new paygrades are (they are unfair), that's a different conversation.

A higher base pay is better for everyone. You are very likely making more now than you were this time last year, or you will be after the next wage increase.
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my job technically doesn't exist, it was dismantled and should be done by each department. Style should hang their own car, etc. So they do get more, for doing the same job. Its just no longer only signing.
 
I don't know if this is the correct thread, but GSAs are getting totally fucked! For GSAs to make the same pay as "special needs" cashiers is totally beyond my understanding. Target has lost it's F'n Mind!! Maybe, our store has too many "special needs" but this "needs" to be addressed.
 
signingminion said:
Style, electronics and beauty are the paygrade above mine. I will make base, they will make over base. So yes most new team members we hire will make more than me... and I fucking earned that pay, it wasn't handed to me as a PR stunt to drive consumer loyalty to create investor gains.
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Sing it baby!! This has always been my stance and it’s 100% spot on. I can’t believe people defend this bullshit. At one point I made $3.53 above base pay. Through raises I EARNED. Now I have to sit back and watch most of my coworkers do cartwheels through the aisles when they get handed a free dollar raise every year they did not earn (and most don’t deserve). And I don’t see one extra cent. Why? Because I busted my ass for my raises instead of just waiting around for these freebies. Hell, I’d be happy if they gave me $.50 for every dollar they handed out for the new base pay BS.
Nope. Not one red cent. The harder you work, the more you suffer. That’s the Target life.

“It’s not like you make less than before.” “These raises are good for the company.” “Just be happy for your coworkers.” - Quotes from people with their heads up their ass who would be just as livid about these raises if they were in my shoes.
 
EndymeChaser said:
Sing it baby!! This has always been my stance and it’s 100% spot on. I can’t believe people defend this bullshit. At one point I made $3.53 above base pay. Through raises I EARNED. Now I have to sit back and watch most of my coworkers do cartwheels through the aisles when they get handed a free dollar raise every year they did not earn (and most don’t deserve). And I don’t see one extra cent. Why? Because I busted my ass for my raises instead of just waiting around for these freebies. Hell, I’d be happy if they gave me $.50 for every dollar they handed out for the new base pay BS.
Nope. Not one red cent. The harder you work, the more you suffer. That’s the Target life.

“It’s not like you make less than before.” “These raises are good for the company.” “Just be happy for your coworkers.” - Quotes from people with their heads up their ass who would be just as livid about these raises if they were in my shoes.
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It's gonna be worse next year when the whole store goes end to end(modernized). All team members will be considered "experts" and they will most likely get rid of pg 35. Every team member will be base pg 30, no more 50 cents extra for being specialty.
 
Is there a new pay grade list out there somewhere since the most recent raise this summer? I’ve looked around for it and can’t find it.
 
Paygrade 30

Cart Attendant TM
Guest Service Desk TM
Cashier
Sales Floor TM - Hardlines
Price Accuracy TM
Signing TM
Presentation TM
TargetExpress Team Member
Human Resources TM
TargetExpress O/N Logistics TM
Guest Service Attendant TM
Logistics TM Backroom
Logistics TM Flow
Just In Time Fulfillment TM
Fulfillment TM

Paygrade 35

Food Service TM
Target Protection Specialist
Starbucks TM
Food TM
Deli Production TM
Liquor Store TM
Food Assistant
Pizza Hut TM
Baker
Cake Decorator
A&A TM
Beauty TM
Electronics TM

Paygrade 40

APS
Visual Merchandiser
Food Service TL
Food TL
Pizza Hut TL
Guest Service TL
Human Resources TL (not Sr)
Log TL Offsite Key Carrier
Logistics TL Backroom
Logistics TL Flow
Logistics TL Key Carrier
Presentation TL
Price Accuracy TL
Pricing & Presentation TL
Replenishment TL
Sales Floor TL

Paygrade 45

Senior TL?
APTL?
Express TL?
PMT?
Senior HRTL?
 
From everyone's experience, when you have your yearly review, what is the norm when it comes to raises? Do you just get a pat on the back or is it 25 cents or so?
 

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