Archived AE 2012 - Team Leaders

[Electronics Man]

Hate to say it, only because I am a Pricing Team Leader, but stores don't really need a Team Leader for pricing. 90% of my day is spent ticketing clearance. They really don't have to pay for TL to ticket clearance. Other than that, the day consists of label changes. I would make more sense to have a) another team leader oversee pricing (like pricing and presentation) or give pricing another area like Instocks. (granted it's still there after ae12) My job is challenging and BORING at the same time. I'm just hoping that since I'm a sr.TL they won't just up and fire me. LOL

That's pretty much what our Pricing TL does most of the time when I see her (ticketing clearance). Although to be honest the earliest I start is 8 so she might be doing stuff before then anyways.

Lol, what is a "perfect" PTM process? PTM isn't a perfect science and can honestly be more trouble than it's worth. Try doing the shampoo aisles...such a waste of payroll.

True that, in electronics we have to do our own PTM's, we just put it out wherever it fits! Within reason anyways...

I'm in the same boat, going from PG9 to PG11 would be a one dollar increase for me, but I'd be moving to dayside from 4am so I'd lose my 1 dollar shift differential!! TL responsibility for no pay increase? Forget it!

Definitely going to be some terse negotiations if I get this position...

Yeah, kinda zapped all of my enthusiasm... like you said negotiations would be in order!

Especially since I start at either 4 or 5 and get the shift diff as well so I would net a whole nothing!!!! YAY!!!!!

I guess it would depend on how bad you want dayside though... I suppose in Spot's eyes, that would be the trade off.

I am currently holding in my hands a copy of something called "low volume structure test"... It details problems and possible solutions to issues with the upcoming test in several stores where TL's are eliminated completely. It's not rumor folks. its fact, and its coming to a store near you soon.

Holy cow, how would a store function? Just ETL's running the whole store? That would make for an ultra quiet store... which I can hardly imagine though I am sure it exists.

It's a good thing that I still have my DTL on my side making sure that I get my weekly 40 hours...at least until he gets performanced out!.

o_0

That actually happens?

At my store, our ETL-SL is also the ETL-GE. We also only have 1 ETL-HL.

At my store, the ETL-GE is also the ETL SL, although an intern that was working with us for the past couple months is now going to be the ETL-SL once he graduates college. So then we will have one more ETL. So far we have ETL-HR, ETL HL/Market, ETL-GE/SL (soon to be separate ETL-GE and ETL-SL), ETL-AP, and we have at least 2 ETL's for overnight that I know of.


I also have a question. So is the college requirement for regular TL's nation wide, or just certain areas, cause I am pretty sure our Sr. TL in Hardlines DOESN'T have one, plus I would like to become TL at some point and I do not have a degree right now, nor do I have the funding to get one at this point.

 

[mrknownothing]

Hate to say it, only because I am a Pricing Team Leader, but stores don't really need a Team Leader for pricing. 90% of my day is spent ticketing clearance. They really don't have to pay for TL to ticket clearance. Other than that, the day consists of label changes. I would make more sense to have a) another team leader oversee pricing (like pricing and presentation) or give pricing another area like Instocks. (granted it's still there after ae12) My job is challenging and BORING at the same time. I'm just hoping that since I'm a sr.TL they won't just up and fire me. LOL

Weird, my store's Starbucks TL has been doing a lot of pricing lately so we have two TLs in pricing.

So if you are a current team leader, can you apply for a higher paygrade anytime you want based on scores? That would suck because I had 9 months of solid green scores in Target Cafe', then got moved to GSTL a week ago. I went into a horrific red everything. Did they intentionally screw me over? Would not doubt it for a second.

This may be the optimist in me talking (or typing), but maybe the previous GSTL got performanced out and they moved you to GSTL hoping you could improve it, seeing as you've done so well at Target Cafe. Whether that's the case or not, it takes time for changes to affect scores, so you may see some red for a while.

 

[walruses]

My store is a B-Volume PFresh Org 3:

ETLs:
HR
LOG
HL
SL
RX
GE
AP

TLs:
HL[2]
SL[2]
Food
Flow
Backroom
Pricing
POG
GSTL[2]
Target Cafe
RX


We had no changes to ETL/TL headcount.

 

[Formina Sage]

Headcount changes only occurred for Org Charts 1 and 2.

 

[ta2d]

So if you are a current team leader, can you apply for a higher paygrade anytime you want based on scores? That would suck because I had 9 months of solid green scores in Target Cafe', then got moved to GSTL a week ago. I went into a horrific red everything. Did they intentionally screw me over? Would not doubt it for a second.

Yup, you can apply at anytime for a higher paygrade. It'll go through your STL and DTL before being approved, but the big key factor in it is- are your numbers currently green and have they been consistantly green.

 

[Rock Lobster]

Yup, you can apply at anytime for a higher paygrade. It'll go through your STL and DTL before being approved, but the big key factor in it is- are your numbers currently green and have they been consistantly green.

Crap! Of course I get moved to an area with terrible metrics just in time for this!

 

[ta2d]

Pretty much! Spot's way of keeping a few bucks

 

[AmICrazy]

I noticed the new edition to the list this year, Pricing and Presentation Team Leader. I didnt believe the rumors at first... but i guess this confirms it.. Wonder whats going to happen to current TLs in ULV stores who hold those positions. Im surprised they havent combined backroom and flow in ULV stores at this point.

I my case I am taking over boys/girls/infants and sleepwear/performance, as that team lead put in her 2 week last week. This will be my first time to be over anything in sofltlines. I have every department in hardlines with the exception of cosmetics. Looks like the move may not happen until next month. We also just lost our consumables team lead. I am kind of looking forward to the change, as it sometimes gets old doing the same thing everything (scan and ticket/ticket and scan).

 

[AmICrazy]

Essentially the changes as far as I understand them (I haven't read the specific guide to this so keep that in mind)... Is that D Volume stores will combine Pricing and Presentation Team Leaders and will lose a HLTL position as well and have the CTL take over more HL roles... So that leaves them with 1 HLTL, 1 SLTL, and 1 CTL for salesfloor (they still have 2 GSTLs though? kinda stupid there)...

After the changes our store will still have only 1 GSTL, 2 SLTLs, 2 and HLTLs. Not sure what is happening to CTL.

 

[AmICrazy]

Plano and Pricing used to be one position years ago. It was called the pricing and presentation TL. It actually worked quiet well.

You had team members that were crossed trained to do both. This helped when the workload for one area was light and the other was heavy. Right now most of my people work in other areas like in stocks or flow before coming to me in PA. This means I really don't have my own team. Also hurts when the workload is large, as I have to work around their schedules else where.

 

[AmICrazy]

Hate to say it, only because I am a Pricing Team Leader, but stores don't really need a Team Leader for pricing. 90% of my day is spent ticketing clearance. They really don't have to pay for TL to ticket clearance. Other than that, the day consists of label changes. I would make more sense to have a) another team leader oversee pricing (like pricing and presentation) or give pricing another area like Instocks. (granted it's still there after ae12) My job is challenging and BORING at the same time.

Agreed can be very boring at times when a lll you are doing is scanning and ticketing and scanning and ticketing some more. Also can be very challenging when you are looking for the needle in a haystack.

 

[shoedoggy]

Has anyone else read the STL dialogue found on Sharepoint regarding breaking the restructuring news? The way I'm reading it sounds like TLs who willingly step down to speed up attrition/headcount won't get a paycut. I brought this up to my HR and she is verifying with our HRBP.

Also, there really is a document outlining the upcoming problems that will occur when they remove the team leadership layer. Again, thats when, not if, team leads are removed entirely. I'm really considering stepping down shortly before starting my maternity leave next month. If I retain my pay then I can come back to work in a less stressful capacity as TM. If not, I will job hunt during my 14 week leave. Win win.

 

[redeye58]

Makws me doubly glad I'm not a TL.
Congrats on your upcoming leave, shoe.

 

[Ajax11]

Has anyone else read the STL dialogue found on Sharepoint regarding breaking the restructuring news? The way I'm reading it sounds like TLs who willingly step down to speed up attrition/headcount won't get a paycut. I brought this up to my HR and she is verifying with our HRBP.

Also, there really is a document outlining the upcoming problems that will occur when they remove the team leadership layer. Again, thats when, not if, team leads are removed entirely. I'm really considering stepping down shortly before starting my maternity leave next month. If I retain my pay then I can come back to work in a less stressful capacity as TM. If not, I will job hunt during my 14 week leave. Win win.

That's the way it's been done at my previous stores in the past. I've seen a few TL get moved back to TM and keep their pay.

 

[CrazyTarget]

loool

My store has 21 ETLs, and 42 TLs, we don't have changes in headcount.

 

[redeye58]

loool

My store has 21 ETLs, and 42 TLs, we don't have changes in headcount.

Day-yum! What's your volume? AAA+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++?

 

[CrazyTarget]

...or as I call it Crazy Target :laugh3:

 

[Hardlinesmaster]

loool

My store has 21 ETLs, and 42 TLs, we don't have changes in headcount.

Wow!

 

[itvgeo]

loool

My store has 21 ETLs, and 42 TLs, we don't have changes in headcount.

And about 400 team members?

 

[StaticSun]

loool

My store has 21 ETLs, and 42 TLs, we don't have changes in headcount.

What does your ETL/TL headcount look like???

 

[invictustaylor]

is such a thing even possible???

Yes! Yes it is!!!

 

[Hardlinesmaster]

Has anyone else read the STL dialogue found on Sharepoint regarding breaking the restructuring news? The way I'm reading it sounds like TLs who willingly step down to speed up attrition/headcount won't get a paycut. I brought this up to my HR and she is verifying with our HRBP.

Also, there really is a document outlining the upcoming problems that will occur when they remove the team leadership layer. Again, thats when, not if, team leads are removed entirely. I'm really considering stepping down shortly before starting my maternity leave next month. If I retain my pay then I can come back to work in a less stressful capacity as TM. If not, I will job hunt during my 14 week leave. Win win.

I am thinking of doing it too. 2 other tl's did at my store, & kept most of their pay.

 

[dek067]

dangerous though. right after spec were cut, they were promised nothing would change except their title. then 2 weeks later, BAM, 15 hours a week. at least as tl you are guaranteed 32 avg. we only have 1 original spec left from the ones who demoted.

 

[shoedoggy]

I know, but it's a gamble I'm thinking about taking. I was one of those displaced specialists, I just had the luck to stumble into my TL position shortly afterward. My husband has been very supportive of this decision (even though I haven't committed to it 100%... yet). I still plan on looking for a new job while I'm on maternity leave, and I would love to come back to a slightly less-stressful work environment. I feel very blessed that Target pays half my bills... but even more thankful that Target doesn't pay all of them, and I know I can survive on shortened hours. I know this is a luxury that many of my fellow team leads do not have. I would much rather demote and keep my pay with less hours than change my mind later on and demote, have shortened hours, AND lose my pay. Don't get me wrong- I love my job!! Instocks and Backroom are my absolute passion, and I will miss leading them and the opportunity to work in those workcenters will be gone. I just really feel like Target isn't giving me much of a choice.

 

[StaticSun]

I've been holding back on visiting this sharepoint as I don't want it to be tracked back to me,

but how can Target justify removing TLs? What about GSTLs? Just having GSAs run the lanes all the time?