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[graffiti]

So I was talking yesterday to someone who works at a target where there testing move. I was kinda drunk but from what I remember from the conversation is tubs and carts will have locations.. You go to the fillgroup your pulling and it will tell you the item your pulling+show a picture. Once you find the item you scan it into the cart...

lol wtf? Then you have to scan it out of the cart to push it? What if someone forgets to? Does the tub become a backstock location of its own? What about when all the vehicles are being used for the truck or for rolled over seasonal backstock? You just can't pull anything?

Wat.

 

[BoxCutter]

Probably trying to inforce product getting pulled (no more burning) and pushed to the floor. If they also track the TMs who did both, it would help with accountability at each step in the process. More likely than not though, it will probably just end up being a big mess.

 

[Rock Lobster]

lol wtf? Then you have to scan it out of the cart to push it? What if someone forgets to? Does the tub become a backstock location of its own? What about when all the vehicles are being used for the truck or for rolled over seasonal backstock? You just can't pull anything?

Wat.

Sounds like when they tried doing this with reshop.

 

[mammoth]

in theory, this would work to really fix on hands and SFQs. right now, if it's not backstocked or in the right location, it's just in limbo and assumed to just be "on the floor." if you had to scan it out of backroom and into a cart, the system would always know where the items are. in reality, it would waste a ton of time and everyone would have to do their jobs perfectly. something we all know is impossible.

 

[RunForACallBox]

Sounds like when they tried doing this with reshop.

I still wonder why that app is still on the PDAs. I haven’t opened it in years.

 

[SFSFun]

in theory, this would work to really fix on hands and SFQs. right now, if it's not backstocked or in the right location, it's just in limbo and assumed to just be "on the floor." if you had to scan it out of backroom and into a cart, the system would always know where the items are. in reality, it would waste a ton of time and everyone would have to do their jobs perfectly. something we all know is impossible.

That sounds like it would take a lot of extra work though. Target would really need to get a better handle on truck to shelf instead of truck to backroom to shelf.

 

[taytay]

So, I work at a store that is currently piloting 'Move' as well as 'PackAndShip'.

Move replaces the Autos that would drop into RFApps. (ASANTS) At 1PM, 3PM (and 5PM Weekends) AutoCafs drop into the Move app. As stated above we scan a location on either a Flat, U Boat, Three-tier, etc.

Once you scan into a location, the myDevice shows you all the current pulls waiting to be pulled as well as their respective fill groups, DPCIs, and eaches. You can also pull multiple fill groups at the same time (Which is really nice when pulling Phar, HB1 and HB2) and locate the pull into the same cart. Once you're in a batch, it gives you the backroom location to scan, a high quality picture of the item you're looking for (gone are the pixel pictures on myFA when picking), the DPCI and however many you're pulling. The process is exactly the same as how pulling in RFapps is, except you already know what you're looking for rather than scanning multiple items. You just continue going to the locations it wants, scanning the items, and filling the pull cart.

When you've pulled all items in the batch, it gives you the option to either continue using the cart to pull other batches, or release it to the pull line. If you release it to the line, a sales floor member will scan the location barcode and Move will tell them exactly what is on the flat.
It gives them all the information needed to work the pull. Locations, Descriptions, DPCIs, the total number on the cart to fill on the floor.

lol wtf? Then you have to scan it out of the cart to push it? What if someone forgets to?

I want to make it clear that SFTM's do not need to scan the items out of the cart. All they do is enter the cart to see what is in it, where it goes on the floor and then once they've stocked everything they close the cart which clears it in the system allowing it to be used again to pull more batches in Move

The 'Auto' section in RFApps is always empty now that we have transitioned to Move. If anyone drops ManCAFS, they drop into Move.

 

[taytay]

PackAndShip is the current name for the app, however it's subject to change.

P&S is the equivalent of going into the 'Pack Container' menu under myFA. It allows you to do the same thing the PDA does, scan in collates, reprint them, split them, etc.
It also has an interface very similar to Move when you're scanning in items from the location.

I was told by the gentleman who developed this app that later this month/August my store would be receiving another app on our myDevices that let's us pick batches. (At least Ship From Store batches. I'm unsure about In Store Flexables) He said that the idea (obviously) is to ditch the PDA and use myDevices for everything.

He also told me, that ideally all of these apps will be combined into Move.
Move will (again, ideally) be THE app for pulling anything in the store.

 

[SFSFun]

@tmap98

That all doesn't sound too bad, and I really like the idea of showing a salesfloor TM where everything on the pull goes right from the beginning. But what about backroom location accuracy? The reason rfapps doesn't tell you what item you need when pulling a batch is to get you to scan random items in the location in case it finds something that it didn't know was there. It would seem like with move, if the item doesn't come up in a batch because it's unlocated for whatever reason, you would never scan it and it could just sit there forever.

 

[mammoth]

and now every time you challenge something to the floor, you'll get blowback. because your challenge won't be tied to a cart. I know I can pull faster by continuing to scan. not stopping to look at a picture

 

[graffiti]

I like the photo idea and pulling multiple batches simultaneously, but the locating in vehicles still sounds pointless. And I can promise you, when the babies batch with pacifiers and sippy cups wants me to pull baby mattresses, those aren't going into the same 3 tier!

 

[No I in Team]

I like the photo idea and pulling multiple batches simultaneously, but the locating in vehicles still sounds pointless. And I can promise you, when the babies batch with pacifiers and sippy cups wants me to pull baby mattresses, those aren't going into the same 3 tier!

Think about the Team Member who is pulling for SFS. This allows more visibility of the merchandise throughout its process.

 

[graffiti]

Think about the Team Member who is pulling for SFS. This allows more visibility of the merchandise throughout its process.

True, but E2E should theoretically end that need if each department's DPO is pulling their own pulls and batches and pushing them as they're pulled like is supposed to happen. My SFS TM always comes to me to ask if I've seen something before cancelling an order anyway and I can easily tell him if I pulled something that morning.

Also, what would happen if a TM forgot to close out a vehicle after pushing?

 

[taytay]

@tmap98

That all doesn't sound too bad, and I really like the idea of showing a salesfloor TM where everything on the pull goes right from the beginning. But what about backroom location accuracy? The reason rfapps doesn't tell you what item you need when pulling a batch is to get you to scan random items in the location in case it finds something that it didn't know was there. It would seem like with move, if the item doesn't come up in a batch because it's unlocated for whatever reason, you would never scan it and it could just sit there forever.

As far as I've been told, if you don't see the item in the location when you walk up to it, you're to scan each item in the location and then press 'All Items Scanned' in the app. I assume that updates the location's items.

I like the photo idea and pulling multiple batches simultaneously, but the locating in vehicles still sounds pointless. And I can promise you, when the babies batch with pacifiers and sippy cups wants me to pull baby mattresses, those aren't going into the same 3 tier!

When pulling batches, if you fill up an entire cart (let's say a flat if you're pulling paper) Move gives you the option to swap carts. When you do this, it immediately releases the first cart to the line so that a SFTM can work it. It then allows you to continue pulling items in the new cart that you've scanned into. In your example above, if you're working a baby batch and you see that it wants you to pull a mattress, you can skip it and continue pulling the other items that will fit into a three tier and then swap carts at the end to pull the larger items.

 

[taytay]

Here's some pictures of the aforementioned apps.
Move

PackAndShip

 

[SFSFun]

Oh god it's using SFS hold locations for pulls. That's going to suck so hard during peak season when we have picked carts, tubs, and flats all over the place.

"Is this a pull or an SFS batch?"

Or even better, people will just take all of my three-tiers and use them for pulls, leaving SFS to struggle to find vehicles to pick with.

 

[taytay]

Oh god it's using SFS hold locations for pulls. That's going to suck so hard during peak season when we have picked carts, tubs, and flats all over the place.

"Is this a pull or an SFS batch?"

Or even better, people will just take all of my three-tiers and use them for pulls, leaving SFS to struggle to find vehicles to pick with.

Yea flats and other things have location labels on them now. We have 'Challenge' pull clips that we've 'rebranded' as Move clips to differentiate from SFS and regular pulls.

 

[BoxCutter]

Thanks for the pics @tmap98. I always like to get a preview before things hit my store.

 

[oath2order]

I agree.

This does not look good at all the more I think about it. We have got to have a better plan going forward with this E2E process.

Such as telling the people in my store to stop fucking standing around chit-chatting.

It's noon and why does the backroom look like a tornado.

 

[WestLoggy]

You all laugh at moves until one of your LODs wants you to 'bust a move' at huddle and dance.

dance monkey dance.

I'm down for that. Would be happy to do it Of course I'm weird and work at Spot.

 

[Flow Warrior]

Oh god it's using SFS hold locations for pulls. That's going to suck so hard during peak season when we have picked carts, tubs, and flats all over the place.

"Is this a pull or an SFS batch?"

Or even better, people will just take all of my three-tiers and use them for pulls, leaving SFS to struggle to find vehicles to pick with.

Or a pull becomes an SFS batch? Sorry I shouldnt be laughing at that. Our Two tiers are flagged with letters and other things to tell them from other normal vehicles.

 

[Flow Warrior]

So I was talking yesterday to someone who works at a target where there testing move. I was kinda drunk but from what I remember from the conversation is tubs and carts will have locations.. You go to the fillgroup your pulling and it will tell you the item your pulling+show a picture. Once you find the item you scan it into the cart... You can no longer locu if the item is not there... You will have to hit item not here.

I don't know to be happy or sad about this. Then again someone abandoned a Trader Joes basket in the store so its now my personal wire basket. I even flagged it '(Flow Warrior's) Wire Basket'

ETL returning from vacation says where did basket come from (mind you this is day RVP comes in to decide where we get to train the region in E2E, such joy!!) I tell him. He thinks its hilarious. Because its tiny and red, I get to keep it.

 

[Flow Warrior]

Lol if they did that... there wouldnt be enough equipment unless they sent more Zebras out especially at my store since they have all zebras sorted by departments

No, you make those who love the PDAs keep the archaic useless things. Now that I have a zebra, I love it. It annoys me I can't pull batches or defect or get the damn signing computer to act like its not 1991

 

[Flow Warrior]

lol wtf? Then you have to scan it out of the cart to push it? What if someone forgets to? Does the tub become a backstock location of its own? What about when all the vehicles are being used for the truck or for rolled over seasonal backstock? You just can't pull anything?

Wat.

Thats when you make the shopping carts locations of their own. Think about it before you dismiss the idea.

 

[Flow Warrior]

Probably trying to inforce product getting pulled (no more burning) and pushed to the floor. If they also track the TMs who did both, it would help with accountability at each step in the process. More likely than not though, it will probably just end up being a big mess.

All I want it the ability to actually fix on hand permanently. I am tired of 15 on the floor 3 in the back 23 on hand. WTF when I see 18.