Store Paygrades

Spudderbud said:
Can anyone explain the difference in paygrades? Like what an N7 is, N9, N11, N13, N15, N17...etc. How much more money would I be making if I were to earn a N15 position over the N9 position I have now? Thanks!
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Really there is no way to tell you because these paygrades are different in different parts of the country, and even sometimes in the same city! For example, in my city TL's (paygrade 11), start at $10.50 at my store. However, at a store just down the freeway they start at $11.50 at the same paygrade.

All we can tell you for a fact are what positions correspond to a paygrade.

Paygrade 3 - sales floor TMs, cashiers, guest service TMs.

Paygrade 5 - Some food TMs, the "old" brand TMs like softlines brand attendant. (also apparently at some stores I have heard guest service TMs fall in paygrade 5)

Paygrade 7 - Pretty much all logistics TMs/plano/pricing.

Paygrade 9 - Specialists/Sr TPs. Now that they are gone no idea who this one applies to.

Paygrade 11 - TLs.

Paygrade 13 - "specialized" TLs in some areas.... Like APS/food TLs/key carrying TLs/etc.

Paygrade 15 - Regular Sr TLs

Paygrade 17 - Specialized Sr TLs like food Sr TLs and the AP version of a sr TL.

So basically I wouldn't worry about what your pay difference would be. If you are a paygrade 9 and want 15 you are basically asking how much more you would be making as a Sr TL. Being a 9 means you are a former specialist, and I hate to say it..... but you guys are pretty much blacklisted from what I can tell. Every former spec at my store has been relegated to "untouchable" status. Basically the company is just waiting for them to leave, and I have seen zero indication they are being considered for any promotions even though these specs used to be our top performers. IMO the company is not willing to promote them again because they would be making a *hell* of a lot of money. You have to remember most specs started at target during the "good" years when they were willing to hand out money. Many of them got a $2 raise years ago just for being a spec, and accumulated tons of raises in the time they were with Target. For example, a former spec at my store is making almost $15/hour! (and yes, we are friends and I have seen her paystub) You think they are going to promote her to TL (a $2 raise) and pay her $17/hour when they start TLs at my store at $10.50? Not likely.

Also keep in mind ETL's have their own paygrades. I have no idea what ETL gets what paygrade or how, but I have heard that the difference in ETL paygrades (unlike TMs) is huge.
 
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I have a former specialist who was making about $12 and then got promoted to TL so they are easily one of the highest paid TLs in the store
 
StateofTarget is sort of right... here is the paygrade chart (or at least most of what I know off the top of my head)
N3 (Base Wage) = Salesfloor TMs, Guest Service TMs, and CAs
N5 (Base Wage + .25) = More specialized positions such as Instocks, Pricing, and some brand TMs
N7 (Base Wage + .50) = Logistics positions, presentation in most stores, GSAs
N9 (Base Wage + 1.00) = Old specialist level, now just Deli TMs, Perishables Assistants and some random positions left over
N11 (Base Wage + 2.00?... I am not sure because the only PG11 position I even know of is Cake Decorator)
N13 (Base Wage + 3.00) = Team Leaders
N15 (Base Wage + 4.00?... Negotiable when you reach these levels) = Key Carrier TLs, Specialized Food TLs, APTLs
N17 (Negotiable and depends on area...) = Senior TLs

Now the weird thing about PGs is that some stores will differ in special circumstances... The most common is Presentation being a PG5 or PG7 because some stores may have the workload differ (allocating alot of the backroom workload away from the team)... Some stores just have trouble hiring all around, and will sometimes make ALL positions PG7 if needed...
 
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Rock Lobster said:
StateofTarget is sort of right... here is the paygrade chart (or at least most of what I know off the top of my head)
N3 (Base Wage) = Salesfloor TMs, Guest Service TMs, and CAs
N5 (Base Wage + .25) = More specialized positions such as Instocks, Pricing, and some brand TMs
N7 (Base Wage + .50) = Logistics positions, presentation in most stores, GSAs
N9 (Base Wage + 1.00) = Old specialist level, now just Deli TMs, Perishables Assistants and some random positions left over
N11 (Base Wage + 2.00?... I am not sure because the only PG11 position I even know of is Cake Decorator)
N13 (Base Wage + 3.00) = Team Leaders
N15 (Base Wage + 4.00?... Negotiable when you reach these levels) = Key Carrier TLs, Specialized Food TLs, APTLs
N17 (Negotiable and depends on area...) = Senior TLs
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Cake decorator is a 9, the only 11s that I know of is pharm techs and SrTPS
 
StateofTarget said:
Also keep in mind ETL's have their own paygrades. I have no idea what ETL gets what paygrade or how, but I have heard that the difference in ETL paygrades (unlike TMs) is huge.
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ETL paygrades are different than TM ones... They don't focus on the current area but instead focus on how many different positions that ETL has done in the past! I don't know the numbers off the top of my head but there are 3 or 4 levels of ETLs you will find... The highest PG ETL will be 13 and they are the ones who are sitting ready to be an STL! They move up PGs by interviewing and doing different positions... So an ETL who has only been HR for years won't move up as much as someone who has done many 18 month rotations in HR, Food, Hardlines etc...
 
Rock Lobster said:
ETL paygrades are different than TM ones... They don't focus on the current area but instead focus on how many different positions that ETL has done in the past! I don't know the numbers off the top of my head but there are 3 or 4 levels of ETLs you will find... The highest PG ETL will be 13 and they are the ones who are sitting ready to be an STL! They move up PGs by interviewing and doing different positions... So an ETL who has only been HR for years won't move up as much as someone who has done many 18 month rotations in HR, Food, Hardlines etc...
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Here is something I have always wondered.... If an ETL leaves Target and then comes back months or years later (I have seen this happen) do they get their old pay back that they had worked up to in the past? Or do they start over at the beginning ETL paygrade?

Hell, do TMs get their old pay back for that matter?
 
StateofTarget said:
Here is something I have always wondered.... If an ETL leaves Target and then comes back months or years later (I have seen this happen) do they get their old pay back that they had worked up to in the past? Or do they start over at the beginning ETL paygrade?

Hell, do TMs get their old pay back for that matter?
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Team members: It depends on how long they are gone, whether they are rehired for the same pay code, I seem to remember that it's about 30 days, but I am not sure.
 
FrontEndKnowItAll said:
Cake decorator is a 9, the only 11s that I know of is pharm techs and SrTPS
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My store has a pharm tech position available, listed as N13. I've been tempted to apply to get that sweet sweet TL pay without the BS and extra work, but I'm worried about the ***************y ETL-Rx. Also, not sure if this is a position requiring certification or not.
 
Formina Sage said:
My store has a pharm tech position available, listed as N13. I've been tempted to apply to get that sweet sweet TL pay without the BS and extra work, but I'm worried about the ***************y ETL-Rx. Also, not sure if this is a position requiring certification or not.
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You don't have to be certified for the position, at my store it's a part time position. If you were certified, it would be an extra $1/hr though. Nice hours too, no late night closings...
 
Target Annie said:
Team members: It depends on how long they are gone, whether they are rehired for the same pay code, I seem to remember that it's about 30 days, but I am not sure.
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That is pretty odd though.... No TM quits and them comes back within 30 days. Usually it will be months or years later.
 
mrknownothing said:
Would a GSA be N9?
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No, it would be 5 or 7 at most. (actually I think it is a 5)

That was part of the screw job that GSA's got.... all the work of a TL for less than the pay of a specialist at the time. I remember when GSA came out we still had specialists, and there was a lot of talk that "GSA's don't even make as much as specialists!" So I know GSA is definitely not paygrade 9.
 
GSA's are not a 7, but they are also not a 9. They reside in the wonderful zone called 8. Yes 8. I have never ever heard of N8 before until I got the GSA "promotion" from my N7 as a logistics team member. I did get a raise, but it was basically nothing and when I asked why it was so low they said "well you went from N7 to N8." I just shook my head and kept my mouth shut, but yeah GSA is apparently in the magic land of non-existence as far as pay-grades go.
 
All of our IS tms are paygrade 7. After a little meet and greet to compare what we do with the backroom, flow and presentation teams it was agreed that our store requires us to do many of the tasks that are the reason that these teams were a higher paygrade plus do the IS core roles. We are technically logistics tms for payroll purposes, but all of the hours are scheduled to instocks.
 
Target Annie said:
You don't have to be certified for the position, at my store it's a part time position. If you were certified, it would be an extra $1/hr though. Nice hours too, no late night closings...
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Yes and no, over half the states out there require certification so because of that most pharm techs are automatically pg13. You may as well be certified if you want to have flexibility beyond target pharmacy.
 
Darikona said:
Yes and no, over half the states out there require certification so because of that most pharm techs are automatically pg13. You may as well be certified if you want to have flexibility beyond target pharmacy.
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thanks for the clarification, guess different rules for other states.
 

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