Archived The most crucial and least important roles in the store?

[REDcardJJ]

I wouldn't rank any of the positions because all of our core roles are so different that it doesn't make any sense to try and compare Beauty to HR or Cashiers to A&A.

 

[FoodAveGstl]

Every person has a role to play. There shouldn't be a rank on the most crucial and least important. That's why it's great to be global at your store so you can see how every role contributes to Target.

 

[Kompa]

Cart attendents aren't needed but they do work hard

Worse case a SFTM will simple get carts or clean up messes

The store only needs two things to function

Someone to sell the item and someone to put it out

That pretty much means Flow/Backroom and Cashier

 

[Kartman]

Cart attendents aren't needed

 

[Kompa]

Don't get me wrong man, I know you guys work hard but the position isn't something that couldn't be filled by someone else.

When I worked at KB toys, they told random people to get the carts and spill. We didn't really need on person to do it

On that note, the GSTL is usless. The most usless TL actually. You only need cashiers that wiill follow policy. Not someone that "speedweaves" people to open registers.

Walmart gets along fine with having 1 open register out of 50

PMT is needed
Pricing, Signing and plano could probably all just fall on Hardlines tbh
Receiving isn't needed and can be handled by backroom

PA isn't needed, could be handled by competent Market TMs

Eletronics and Beauty are just glorified HLTM

HRTM is need, but doesn't need 40 hours when half of that is spend decorating

 

[BigEyedPhish]

Cart attendents aren't needed but they do work hard

Worse case a SFTM will simple get carts or clean up messes

The store only needs two things to function

Someone to sell the item and someone to put it out

That pretty much means Flow/Backroom and Cashier

This is funny to me, as it is probably the most simplified statement I have ever read on my entire time on these forums. Ignorance is truly bliss. To understate the fact that there are quite a few on jobs in this store that have a responsibility to make sure each of these bolded positions run as best as they possibly can, and supplying everything they could ever need, all the while filling in and doing the exact bolded jobs stated above, most of the time better.

Cashier? We literally have Robots who Cashier.

 

[BigEyedPhish]

Don't get me wrong man, I know you guys work hard but the position isn't something that couldn't be filled by someone else.

When I worked at KB toys, they told random people to get the carts and spill. We didn't really need on person to do it

On that note, the GSTL is usless. The most usless TL actually. You only need cashiers that wiill follow policy. Not someone that "speedweaves" people to open registers.

Walmart gets along fine with having 1 open register out of 50

PMT is needed
Pricing, Signing and plano could probably all just fall on Hardlines tbh
Receiving isn't needed and can be handled by backroom

PA isn't needed, could be handled by competent Market TMs

Eletronics and Beauty are just glorified HLTM

HRTM is need, but doesn't need 40 hours when half of that is spend decorating

Yes, lets give every Hardines/Softlines TM a blank check to spend the stores money on SAP, all while having a free for all at the weekly Signing Pallet, or making sure the store is able to print prices for fuck sake, whether on sale, or normal price (Which includes maybe 20 different labels in my State, all different order numbers, and all used at wayyy different frequencies.) Shit I also order all of my stores Backstop/Pull Clips/PTM, etc for Backroom... On top of this I have also ordered Full orders of SFS Supplies, which are $4,000+ Orders. All the while ordering everything, every single department in my store is in need of.

This, is before I even get to my main core roles.

This seems brilliant. I am actually not quite sure you understand exactly what we do here.

 

[Kompa]

This is funny to me, as it is probably the most simplified statement I have ever read on my entire time on these forums. Ignorance is truly bliss. To understate the fact that there are quite a few on jobs in this store that have a responsibility to make sure each of these bolded positions run as best as they possibly can, and supplying everything they could ever need, all the while filling in and doing the exact bolded jobs stated above, most of the time better.

Cashier? We literally have Robots who Cashier.

Good, so only logistics is needed.

Every department exist for a reason but they aren't all needed.

If you look into retail stores in general, from corner stores to big box there are a few positions that are usually still there.

Cashier - Someone to ring the items up and take the money.
Some type of stocker or backroom worker, could be a receiver that counts inventory while vendors stock or a backroom worker that does both. Either way, there is usually someone dedicated to making sure items get to the floor

Plano, AP, pricing, GSA. beauty, CA and more are all roles that could be preformed by one of the two above

Have everyone do something different definitely helps, but for most "important" roles, you can't ignore logic

 

[Kompa]

Yes, lets give every Hardines/Softlines TM a blank check to spend the stores money on SAP, all while having a free for all at the weekly Signing Pallet, or making sure the store is able to print prices for fuck sake, whether on sale, or normal price (Which includes maybe 20 different labels in my State, all different order numbers, and all used at wayyy different frequencies.) Shit I also order all of my stores Backstop/Pull Clips/PTM, etc for Backroom... On top of this I have also ordered Full orders of SFS Supplies, which are $4,000+ Orders. All the while ordering everything, every single department in my store is in need of.

This, is before I even get to my main core roles.

This seems brilliant. I am actually not quite sure you understand exactly what we do here.

Management could do all that

Our BRTL takes care of clips and backroom stuff like SFS
Out GSTL takes care of front end items

You're being taken advantage off if you're ordering everyone else's shit

 

[BigEyedPhish]

Management could do all that

Our BRTL takes care of clips and backroom stuff like SFS
Out GSTL takes care of front end items

You're being taken advantage off if you're ordering everyone else's shit

All Signing TMs are not the same.

Management could do all that

Our BRTL takes care of clips and backroom stuff like SFS
Out GSTL takes care of front end items

You're being taken advantage off if you're ordering everyone else's shit

No, they can't. At my store Signing TM/Receiving TM are looked at like the "Purchasing Department". That every successful company on earth has. If other Signing TMs do not have this responsibility, i am fuckin jealous.

 

[Kompa]

All Signing TMs are not the same.


No, they can't. At my store Signing TM/Receiving TM are looked at like the "Purchasing Department". That every successful company on earth has. If other Signing TMs do not have this responsibility, i am fuckin jealous.

Our signing TM can do that, but our ETLs have cracked down on the TLs so most do their own ordering. Why would a signing d0 order for BR when they have no idea what's going on there. It makes no sense.

 

[Rarejem]

Our receiving tm is a priceless jewel. I can't imagine what any store does without a tm like we have in that position.

 

[PM2NO]

When I was Receiving, I was responsible for ordering almost everything. Fast forward a couple years later, as a PMT I have taken on that responsibility for the most part ordering stuff that’s not even my responsibility.

 

[HRLady]

HRTM is need, but doesn't need 40 hours when half of that is spend decorating

I can assure you that I don't spend half of my time decorating. What I do spend half of my time doing is supporting my fellow TMs and leaders with their needs above my own work center needs. I cover operator, replace call offs, push market, zone softlines, back up cashier, teach people how to use technology, train people on processes, etc.

For a lot of the behind-the-scenes stuff that we do in HR, almost no one else in our store is aware of because a lot of the details are restricted to only us and select leaders. We do more than just file papers and decorate. We just can't announce it to everyone since the majority of what we do is confidential.

 

[garbage]

They don't need us. TPS's that actually know their business and get results (a rare breed now), they'd miss us if we all left.

I left Although the other TPSs at my store are pretty damn good as well.

Cart attendents aren't needed but they do work hard

Low volume store is obviously low volume.

Some days we have two cart attendants, one for inside carts, bathrooms and carry outs, then the other for the parking lot. When one is on break, it goes to hell fast.

 

[Kompa]

I left Although the other TPSs at my store are pretty damn good as well.


Low volume store is obviously low volume.

Some days we have two cart attendants, one for inside carts, bathrooms and carry outs, then the other for the parking lot. When one is on break, it goes to hell fast.

My store is b or a volume. And I still stands by my claim. You don't need a CA. They aren't in a specialized role and anyone in the store can grab carts while and one that took the hazard training can clean backroom.

I'm not saying they don't work hard, they do. But in the context of the thread, they aren't really needed. Plenty of retail stores use normal employees to get carts or simply makes the guest get them.

 

[PM2NO]

My store is b or a volume. And I still stands by my claim. You don't need a CA. They aren't in a specialized role and anyone in the store can grab carts while and one that took the hazard training can clean backroom.

I'm not saying they don't work hard, they do. But in the context of the thread, they aren't really needed. Plenty of retail stores use normal employees to get carts or simply makes the guest get them.

I have been in a couple stores that don’t have cart attendants as a regular role.

I was in a store that moved away from a mall store into a stand alone store and they had enough to last most of the day so they didn’t have CAs and just spread the responsibility. A cart roundup when carts were low is usually what this store did. Busier times had CAs but a typical day no because they were only given so many hours to do it whereas the mall store had more hours to give.

In my current store the rule of thumb is 5 carts before breaks and lunches. Only time we have a CA is Thanksgiving and getting closer to Christmas.

 

[Kartman]

Some days we have two cart attendants, one for inside carts, bathrooms and carry outs, then the other for the parking lot. When one is on break, it goes to hell fast.

Haven't you heard?

CA's aren't needed!

The guest can get them. Guests enjoy that stuff.

 

[RightArm]

Here's my whole issue with this "CAs aren't needed, anyone can do it" crap.... Which of us isn't already doing so much that we can afford to take on yet another role? Corporate already thinks like this - thus E2E was born. According to E2E's philosophy, we don't need any dedicated anything - not backroom, not plano, not cashier, not SL, not HL... because EVERY TM should be cross trained to do EVERYTHING. So I don't get why you're singling out CAs. And when every TM is trained to do EVERY single job in the store.... you now need managers who can stagger those jobs so they all get done and we're not running around in circles. The bottom line is that no matter how many jobs a TM can do, they simply cannot do all of them in ONE shift.

 

[HRZone]

Having dedicated cart attendants is what makes Target great actually. Cashiers can stay on a lane. Managers can run the store. Sure Ross and Marshalls dont have cart attendants but fellow big box stores like wal mart, fred meyer and Kmart do.

Target is better off letting team members master their craft (whatever that may be). If youre going to be a cart attendant be the best one you can be, cashier best one you could be. Etc

 

[PM2NO]

Having dedicated cart attendants is what makes Target great actually. Cashiers can stay on a lane. Managers can run the store. Sure Ross and Marshalls dont have cart attendants but fellow big box stores like wal mart, fred meyer and Kmart do.

Target is better off letting team members master their craft (whatever that may be). If youre going to be a cart attendant be the best one you can be, cashier best one you could be. Etc

Agreed. Since we don’t have the CAs, it makes it tougher for other positions to do their roles. Our store really could use a CA role to help with overall cleanliness. My store tries to get the PMT to do a lot of the CA duties but it takes away time I could be doing repairs or painting to improve appearance. Even if they just had 40 hours to give for the role, it would be better than nothing.

 

[HRLady]

I came back and interviews weren't screened. Apparel interviews with no experience or fashion interest. Punch corrections not done. Vouchers unprocessed. No payroll reports or compliance printed. Calendar from last month still up. No food on FFF days. Lol

lol

I'm just going to ignore payroll, compliance, and FFF events while hiring without properly screening applicants until HRZone comes back. It's just a week. What can go wrong?

I came back and interviews weren't screened. Apparel interviews with no experience or fashion interest.

I know what you mean. One of my former ETL-HRs once took charge of mass-hiring. They "screened" and job offered non-minor applicants with terrible 3 hours per day availability. My fellow HRTMs and I were like .

Punch corrections not done. Vouchers unprocessed.

Oh man.

I hope it wasn't a payweek after payroll closed that you came back to. Did you have to do a bunch of historical edit web forms and vouchers for a whole bunch of people? That's what happened one time when I was out sick on a Monday and nobody at the store thought about calling anyone else on my team to come in for payroll. I am pretty sure if it had been any other work center, they would have been on it.

 

[HRZone]

I hope it wasn't a payweek after payroll closed that you came back to. Did you have to do a bunch of historical edit web forms and vouchers for a whole bunch of people?

Yup one of my TLs who had a paid vacation auto deny literally hugged me when I got him a voucher.

I love you can do historical edits directly on the timecard now. Those webforms were a pain.

 

[NPC]

The only useless position in the store is GSA. Fight me.

 

[HRLady]

I love you can do historical edits directly on the timecard now. Those webforms were a pain.

Yes, me too! It's so much easier now. It's like one of the few things that I actually like about the new myTime so far. This new myTime keeps freezing on me whenever I try to edit a schedule for just one TM.