Will Target lift the mask requirement?

The vax hasn’t been approved for children under 12 yet, and even over 12 was only recently.

no one is telling you what to do. Should people get vaccinated? Yes. Saying you don’t get sick doesn’t change that. It’s not all about you but about those around you. I get vaxed (covid, flu, whooping cough etc) for those around me. For my grandparents, neighbors, friends, my child.
You are saying no one is telling me what to do and in the same post you are telling me is not about me. The ones around me are getting vaccinated. Like I said my child is up to date with all of them . So is father , family etc . So at the end of the day it is about me and how I feel about it .
 
You are saying no one is telling me what to do and in the same post you are telling me is not about me. The ones around me are getting vaccinated. Like I said my child is up to date with all of them . So is father , family etc . So at the end of the day it is about me and how I feel about it .
I understand your side to a point, but you do get that when it comes to public health decisions, yours do affect other people, right? If you are unvaccinated you are a prime host for a virus, and even if you remain unsymptomatic, you can spread it to others.

Also, and I am being a bit facetious here so please don't get insulted, but I call bullshit on you never having a cold. Never? Never ever ever in your entire life? Not one sniffle?
 
Mask mandate ended here in New York. It will be interesting to see how people react. We’ve never even had an outdoor mask mandate, and people wear masks outside all the time. I don’t see that changing indoors. Most people seem to be wearing masks because they want to, not because they have to.
 
As it says "strongly recommended" instead of "required" does this mean non-vaccinated TMs can also not wear masks, or is that going to be ASANTS?
It means it's strongly recommended as they know they can't require proof of a vaccine. They will never be able to enforce it.
 
My state is lifting their mask mandate right before I come back from vacation. I'm currently visiting family in a southern state that no longer has a mask mandate. I am fully vaccinated but I still wear my mask when I enter stores and restaurants. I have no idea what other people may have i.e., Covid, flu, some other virus. I also want to protect the employees of these establishments as I also worked through the entire pandemic. Right now I feel more comfortable wearing a mask. My state is leading in vaccinated people but we are still under 50% fully vaccinated. I also love that I haven't been sick since we started wearing masks last March.
 
My entire household is fully vaccinated, so I’m comfortable enough with maskless people coming into the store, especially since I’ll probably be wearing a mask myself for the time being. I know I’m well protected. Now I just hope people are honest about being vaccinated, but I think most people are honest and good people. Also mask compliance has been near 100% in my area, so I think most people coming into my store will do the right thing.
 
Idk I got a lot of masks with cool patterns I'm trying to show off so I am gonna keep wearing them at least until I run out. And I have many boxes lol (and no not from panic buying when it all started – I buy them on Amazon or eBay if they look cool)
 
I understand your side to a point, but you do get that when it comes to public health decisions, yours do affect other people, right? If you are unvaccinated you are a prime host for a virus, and even if you remain unsymptomatic, you can spread it to others.

Also, and I am being a bit facetious here so please don't get insulted, but I call bullshit on you never having a cold. Never? Never ever ever in your entire life? Not one sniffle?
And so do you . You can still transmit it, they don’t know how long the vaccine protects you. So you as a vaccinated person can still give it to me , ( still public health concern no?)you won’t see me blaming anyone if that would be the case because I made the decision not to get vaccinated. Swine flu was a pandemic as well lasted 19 months. At that time I was traveling internationally with my child went to the pediatrician and asked what should I do since my child had health problem. I was told that there was no data on the vaccine that came out at that time and was told just to give my child a flu vaccine which I did. Many months later we found out about all the recalls and effects of the vaccine.
And I’m not insulted . But no I never missed a day of school or work.
 
But no I never missed a day of school or work.
Lots of people never 'missed a day'.
Doesn't mean they were never sick, just never called out.

Kinda like the guy who dropped dead but had 'never been sick a day in his life', which only meant he'd never been to a doctor who might've diagnosed him with a life-threatening health condition.
 
Lots of people never 'missed a day'.
Doesn't mean they were never sick, just never called out.

Kinda like the guy who dropped dead but had 'never been sick a day in his life', which only meant he'd never been to a doctor who might've diagnosed him with a life-threatening health condition.
I do go to doctor tho . And back in my country ( no so common here) as a child blood work was done every year , and still do. Even here I request it for my child at every yearly check up.
 
And so do you . You can still transmit it, they don’t know how long the vaccine protects you. So you as a vaccinated person can still give it to me , ( still public health concern no?)you won’t see me blaming anyone if that would be the case because I made the decision not to get vaccinated. Swine flu was a pandemic as well lasted 19 months. At that time I was traveling internationally with my child went to the pediatrician and asked what should I do since my child had health problem. I was told that there was no data on the vaccine that came out at that time and was told just to give my child a flu vaccine which I did. Many months later we found out about all the recalls and effects of the vaccine.
And I’m not insulted . But no I never missed a day of school or work.
No, they don't know. It's not certain that you can transmit it. The answer at this point is the usual wishywashiness of people scared to make a firm statement until they've got miles of research studies, it might or it might not, it might act like all other viruses or it might be the lone exception in nature, it might be killed the same way as all other viruses, it might be the lone completely invulnerable virus. Obviously it being the complete opposite of all other viruses is bupkis, but they are afraid.

Right now it's looking pretty good for not being able to transmit it since it can't get to an appreciable level, but we got to wait for the miles of research studies, like we've been all along. There are the occasional breakthrough cases, but guess what, that's true for all preventable viruses. Childhood vaccines have more than one dose because not all kids get immunity from the first dose. The second dose that most kids don't actually need takes care of a fair portion of the kids who still have no immunity, the third takes care of all but a bitty bit (I've heard 1% on average). At that point it's just not feasible to keep going for that little bit. That's how it is with the COVID-19 vaccine, nearly everyone gets immunity, a few don't.

And that's the thing. They don't, but they have no way to know. There's other people who medically can't get it. Both of those groups depend on everyone else protecting them. They depend on everyone else circling the wagons. They depend on herd immunity.

Those who don't get the vaccine because they are selfish jerks have blood on their hands for every person who couldn't get vaccinated, wouldn't have gotten it due to herd immunity, but ended up dying from it because the person skipping out caught it and transmitted it to them.
 
Doubt it. The Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act (HIPAA) only governs those in the healthcare sphere (Your doctor, hospital, etc.) It doesn't apply to the average person or businesses, nor does it provide someone protection from ever having to disclose their health information.
I find it amusing a bunch of old dudes passed this into law right after Viagra was invented.... hmmmm
 
Those who don't get the vaccine because they are selfish jerks have blood on their hands for every person who couldn't get vaccinated, wouldn't have gotten it due to herd immunity, but ended up dying from it because the person skipping out caught it and transmitted it to them.


I don’t think calling a person who decides for themselves NOT to get a vaccine “a selfish jerk” is fair.
Each person should have the freedom to do what they feel is right for THEM without “having blood on their hands”.
The person who is immune-compromised has the responsibility to protect themselves - I am NOT responsible to protect THEM.
Take whatever precautions YOU feel is necessary for YOU and STOP forcing ME to do what I decide doesn’t work for me.
I value living in a FREE country And would like it to stay that way -
I don’t want this to become a slippery slope of more and more restrictions on my freedoms “for the greater good”

I’ll let you do you - why can’t you let me make MY own choices ?
 
Here it goes, no mask in our store!
I am fully vaccinated but still wear one.
Several TMs not vaccinated ( they were very vocal about it ) are not wearing a mask anymore. We had 2 cases of COVID last week!!
it really doesn’t make sense!!!
 
I don’t think calling a person who decides for themselves NOT to get a vaccine “a selfish jerk” is fair.
Each person should have the freedom to do what they feel is right for THEM without “having blood on their hands”.
The person who is immune-compromised has the responsibility to protect themselves - I am NOT responsible to protect THEM.
Take whatever precautions YOU feel is necessary for YOU and STOP forcing ME to do what I decide doesn’t work for me.
I value living in a FREE country And would like it to stay that way -
I don’t want this to become a slippery slope of more and more restrictions on my freedoms “for the greater good”

I’ll let you do you - why can’t you let me make MY own choices ?
Thank you. You definitely said what I wanted to say.
 
I don’t think calling a person who decides for themselves NOT to get a vaccine “a selfish jerk” is fair.
Each person should have the freedom to do what they feel is right for THEM without “having blood on their hands”.
The person who is immune-compromised has the responsibility to protect themselves - I am NOT responsible to protect THEM.
Take whatever precautions YOU feel is necessary for YOU and STOP forcing ME to do what I decide doesn’t work for me.
I value living in a FREE country And would like it to stay that way -
I don’t want this to become a slippery slope of more and more restrictions on my freedoms “for the greater good”

I’ll let you do you - why can’t you let me make MY own choices ?
It's called herd immunity.
It's how we stop and even completely kill off things like smallpox and polio.
Without everyone who can getting immunized we can't protect those who are unable to.
The entire idea is that as a community we take on a greater responsibility.
We do what we can to protect the people who can't protect themselves.
That is a part of being civilized human beings.
We don't only think about ourselves, we try and consider the needs of the less fortunate.

As a sidenote...
I have never understood all the Star Trek fans out there who want that world but don't seem to understand the work and principles it takes to get it.
 
Looks to me like a few people here have completely skipped their Civics classes. Freedom demands responsibilities for the individual and obligations toward the whole. Maybe read a little from John Dewey, Thomas Paine, Nelson Mandela, Martin Luther King Jr, etc. etc. etc. And then read Lord of the Flies. Maybe then you'll get it.
 
I don’t think calling a person who decides for themselves NOT to get a vaccine “a selfish jerk” is fair.
Each person should have the freedom to do what they feel is right for THEM without “having blood on their hands”.
The person who is immune-compromised has the responsibility to protect themselves - I am NOT responsible to protect THEM.
Take whatever precautions YOU feel is necessary for YOU and STOP forcing ME to do what I decide doesn’t work for me.
I value living in a FREE country And would like it to stay that way -
I don’t want this to become a slippery slope of more and more restrictions on my freedoms “for the greater good”

I’ll let you do you - why can’t you let me make MY own choices ?
You can make any choice you want. Just don't pretend that all choices are morally neutral. You can choose to beat a homeless man for fun, you have free will, but that doesn't make it right.

Responsibility to others and helping others means getting all your vaccinations and all your children's vaccinations on time, even the optional ones. It's what good, ethical people do for each other. Think of it as the ultimate charity work.

You want to skip out on that, fine, but admit that you are facilitating death and admit that selfish in this case means morally wrong. Don't act like your choice is made in a vacuum with no horrible impact on others.
 
You can make any choice you want. Just don't pretend that all choices are morally neutral. You can choose to beat a homeless man for fun, you have free will, but that doesn't make it right.

Responsibility to others and helping others means getting all your vaccinations and all your children's vaccinations on time, even the optional ones. It's what good, ethical people do for each other. Think of it as the ultimate charity work.

You want to skip out on that, fine, but admit that you are facilitating death and admit that selfish in this case means morally wrong. Don't act like your choice is made in a vacuum with no horrible impact on others.
I want to stop defending myself but how can I not respond to:
”You can choose to beat A Homeless man for fun, you have free will” !!!
Ummmmm, NO, I CAN’T ! Why would you say that ??!
Do you really equate MY personal choices TO “FACILITATING DEATH”. !!!
Please, stop !
I try not to insult but those are some truly over dramatized statements.
 
I know who and who is not vaccinated in my store based on who was paid to vaccinate. Right now more than half my store is not vaccinated and it will be interesting to see if they will still be wearing masks.
 

The study showed that more cases of whooping cough occurred in the clusters of unvaccinated children than not, resulting in 9,120 instances of the disease and 10 deaths. In San Diego county alone, there were 5,100 exemptions and 980 whooping cough cases.

10 deaths. 10 children died. 10 children in one tiny place during one short time from just one disease. 10 children died in large part because too few people were vaccinated to maintain herd immunity. So no, it's not hyperbole. Children are dying. Adults are dying. They are dying because selfish people decide to not maintain the safety social net of herd immunity.
 
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