MEGATHREAD 2018-2019 Store Modernization Megathread

[OPINION] How do you feel about these changes?

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If 75% of your backstock goes out your push team isn’t doing their job
That would be correct, lots of new TMs from the churn. It's so much fun holding flow accountable🤣

I just know if it's happening here it's probably happening in other stores. Softlines TLs just challenged out their backstock and saw about 75% go out. The accountability piece is for the flow TL is key. Even more so now that it's push all.
 
Talking about Amazon what does everyone think of their raise to $15? I mean sure they screwed people that were fast enough to make a decent bonus but it does sound more attractive overall.

It costs way less to pay someone $15 an hour and give them 12 hours a week than it does to pay them $12 and give them 40 + overtime
 
That’s not the process of your stores inability to adapt and chance.
This isn't just my store, but it seems most of the stores due to the comments on here and online. I am aware of a couple of stores in our group that are being somewhat successful and that is due to them deviating from the outlines process. Sloth above said it very well.
 
This isn't just my store, but it seems most of the stores due to the comments on here and online. I am aware of a couple of stores in our group that are being somewhat successful and that is due to them deviating from the outlines process. Sloth above said it very well.
Not sure if many of you have actually read the full sort and stock modernization guide but it tells you in there to tweak for your store. It’s a GUIDE not law. The guide is there to help you and offer ways to do the new process but you have to tweak to your store because every store is different. We already have so many processes that are technically standard company wide but every store does it a little differently. It’s the stores that don’t tweak, refuse to change from their old ways, and have ETLs that don’t come up with their own version of the guide that best fits there store that will fail. This process works.
 
Not sure if many of you have actually read the full sort and stock modernization guide but it tells you in there to tweak for your store. It’s a GUIDE not law. The guide is there to help you and offer ways to do the new process but you have to tweak to your store because every store is different. We already have so many processes that are technically standard company wide but every store does it a little differently. It’s the stores that don’t tweak, refuse to change from their old ways, and have ETLs that don’t come up with their own version of the guide that best fits there store that will fail. This process works.
All group leadership in my area said the guide is the law. No deviating from the plan. I could make this pile of crap work if i tailor it to my store. But we are threatened if we make changes even if i can speak to it and give reasons why my changes work.
 
All group leadership in my area said the guide is the law. No deviating from the plan. I could make this pile of crap work if i tailor it to my store. But we are threatened if we make changes even if i can speak to it and give reasons why my changes work.
So again that’s poor leadership not the guide. The guide is not the problem and modernization is not the problem. Leadership ruins the process.
 
Who is challenging the backstock that gets brought back? We've found 75% goes out fits in the floor, about 10% is due to quantities that fit on the shelf being wrong or inventory being off and the rest is actually backstock. Way more issues with POGs than normal lately and my understanding is they did another purge of the corporate POG design team.
When the hell do you have time to challenge the backstock?
 
We never did. Overnight was supposed to do it but they never had time either.😳😂
The during the first 4 hours we will have the backroom randomly challenge one tub that's brought back, we let the person that brings it back know they are held responsible if more than 50% goes out. It's one way we've been able to hold team members accountable.

After the 4 hour time mark theirs no time as the flow of bringing things back goes nuts and we know most of it should be repushed. So we just audit and let the Flow TL and logistics ETL know the sections people are not pushing in and it's coming back as backstock.
 
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No just trying to play devils advocate. Targets and retail in general has a a lot of TMs that are resistant to change regardless of what it is. Targets changing and it’s timw to drink the kool-aid or get out

This shows you truly are aiming or are in a corporate position. If you werent you would understand its not about resistance but about basic logic. You cant completely destroy your logistical process while cutting bodies off and expect a whole new system to worok without any training or communication. The fact that you cant understand or refuse to understand that the corporate level is allowing this to destroy ztores while leaving their over hired management as scape goats is kinda funny. Hows that third house and garage full of cars treating you? Quite frankly if you logice out the ideas and implement them over the course of some years while beating out the kinks the process would actually run quite smooth. However throwing it all in at once without working the kinks and flat out refusing any adult communication and throwing toddler fits instead is why its failing. Not resistance. Logic never really did do well in america :/
 
It's also ridiculous because even if people want to adapt, the company doesn't give us the proper tools to do the very process they expect us to adapt to, or worse, they take away the tools we already had (like trash cages and flats). It's one thing to change processes around, it's another thing entirely to take away your tools and make your job objectively harder and/or more time consuming.

Even if the store level leadership recognizes issues and wants to fix them, they can't do so without risking their jobs. I would love to see the look on DTL thot's face if my ETL or STL ever talked to her about "tweaking" the process for our store, i.e. challenging the process. They would both be pushed out in under two wags of Spot's tail. They know that, so when Her Majesty is sauntering around in our backroom with her minions fanning her, our leaders can only say "yes my lady", "certainly my lady" "aye, it shall be done, my lady".
 
Very true its why seasoned etls even in ap are dropping out because they want to fight for their stores and corporate is telling em to screw off and make it work. Its why I dont even bother bringing anything up to anyone anymore. None of us are alllowed to. Its really like a servitude situation. Do it and dont give me any back talk. But that back talk is actually pleaze for help. Pretty sad actually.
 
No just trying to play devils advocate. Targets and retail in general has a a lot of TMs that are resistant to change regardless of what it is. Targets changing and it’s timw to drink the kool-aid or get out
Target has a lot of TMs that are resistant to change because these TMs have been in retail for many years, have experienced many changes that have had negative results, and would prefer that Target not follow other retailers down the road to disaster. The problem with Spot is that they are not looking for a better process, but a cheaper process. Therein lies the rub. Modernization is a much more labor intensive process than the previous one, but Spot expects it to be successful with far less payroll. This may be the corporate and stockholders’ dream, but it is far from practical, or possible. Mountains of salvage, packed stockrooms, empty shelves, the exodus of trained, experienced staff and the miserable work environment that drives them out all point to the failure of modernization. But sales are up, you say? That’s because the economy is booming. Sales have increased in spite of modernization, not because of it. That gives modernization cover for a while, but in the long term the truth will out. Think of what sales would be like if every shelf in every store was filled to the max. Modernization isn’t doing it, and won’t be, without a considerable infusion of payroll. Look at the cluster of modernization at this point, and it’s not even busy yet. Wait until 4th quarter when everything hits the fan. The problem isn’t that TMs/leadership need to drink the koo-aid or get out. The problem is that corporate refuse to listen to the truth when it is presented to them, preferring to continue their lemmings rush to the sea, taking Spot with them.
 
If 75% of your backstock goes out your push team isn’t doing their job
Not necessarily. Just this morning while doing ad set, a peg was overloaded - did a quick scan and the capacity is 25 when only 4 will fit, 5 if you're ok with the 5th one practically falling off. I see this kind of thing all the time. There's a new bar soap that came in last week - capacity was 28 when only 21 will fit, and even that is probably asking for the little walls of soap bars to tumble.
And if no one bothers to change the capacity, it just keeps happening that too much is pulled and gets sent back.
 
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Very true its why seasoned etls even in ap are dropping out because they want to fight for their stores and corporate is telling em to screw off and make it work. Its why I dont even bother bringing anything up to anyone anymore. None of us are alllowed to. Its really like a servitude situation. Do it and dont give me any back talk. But that back talk is actually pleaze for help. Pretty sad actually.
This. So much this. Corporate is the champion of micro-management and individual stores just have to suck it up and follow the plan. Just like TMs are expected to be good little sheep and not question ANYthing. I got tired of being that nail that was found to be sticking up too far and getting whacked with a hammer. These days, I just keep my mouth shut. I expect a lot of store leadership feels the same way - which is really sad. Improvement doesn't just magically happen.
 
Yeah, the process is a mess. There are 12 stores in my district. Of those 12, 3 have been able to almost make it work, only because they have the payroll to do so. However, they are now struggling because their leaders are traveling all around the district to cover for the 6 stores who have little to no upper management. We've lost 7 STL's since August. Numerous ETLs. 3 stores have literally no ETL's or an STL. The district overspent payroll by thousands of hours because the processes failed so hard that support staff had to be added.

The worst store of them all lost their STL, ETL HR, ETL AP, ETL Logistics, and ETL Salesfloor in the span of two weeks. They weren't pushed out. They were all 6+ year veterans with the company and they all quit. Why? Because the company took their flats, cages, tubs, etc and "forgot" to send them more u-boats to replace them. They then had 3 trucks where the driver showed up at 10am with flow team scheduled to leave at 11. Most of the team couldn't stay because they have kids, other jobs, etc and had to leave at 11. So, numerous trucks carried over and the store had to move unworked pallets to the floor. They could never catch up and ended up drowning. The leadership got fed up and left.

This process does not work unless you have the payroll. The added problem is that Target is essentially telling everyone that they do not care about the workers because they will just hire someone new. The only problem? Most of the new people we've hired quit within a month because they think the expectations are insane. We're losing veterans who could make the process bearable AND we're losing the newbies. So it's just a revolving door of people who don't know what they're doing and don't have the tools necessary to try to pretend.

Target doesn't care if they lose valuable people. That's the biggest problem. They think this system is worth more than their employees, and they don't want to hear any negative feedback.

I sent in some feedback and was essentially told "nope we've done research that says it's good."

I can only assume that corporate offices are as bad as the stores at this point with a revolving team drowning under expectations.
 
No just trying to play devils advocate. Targets and retail in general has a a lot of TMs that are resistant to change regardless of what it is. Targets changing and it’s timw to drink the kool-aid or get out
Hard to drink the Kool aid when they don't tell you how to make it or give you the proper ingredients first. Instead they say figure it out or get out.
 
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And if no one bothers to change the capacity, it just keeps happening that too much is pulled and gets sent back.
^This. There is so much errors and no one trained to fix it nor have enough devices to fix it. System is flawed.
To those who are having success, PM me so I can take a road trip to visit your successful store. I want to take tips and notes back to my store so we can "maybe" have a fighting chance to be successful as well.

All the stores processes are broken and nothing was wrong in the first place other than they kept on cutting payroll. I wish you all luck and advise you to hold on because 4th quarter is in 2 and a half weeks. And those of you who won't hold on, best of luck to your future endeavors and pray for those who decide to stick it out. The apocalypse is here...We have become "The Walking Dead! "
 
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In my area sales floor shelves are empty and backrooms are bursting at the seams...😳
Sounds like my store. They keep scheduling us to start later and later with the team starting at 8am, store opening at 8am, guests coming in at 8am to see no product out on the shelf. Does this make any sense? The atmospg What they need to do is just make it be an online order fulfillment center.
 
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