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I don't mind paying for the move I just wanted to know if they would take you as seriously for a corporate design position if you were coming from one of the stores, you know... Like Ralph Lauren is notoriously bad about not being able to move "up" into corporate.
you have to have a certian about of years in retail from what i recall as well as in fashion and thats just the bare min.
 
Dude, at the end of the day its TARGET...
Who is your employer, so your point is??? We shouldn't give a damn because "it's target?" Sorry, you "have a bad day" and a mannequin looks like something out of "fashion dos and donts quarterly..." I "have a bad day" and someone dies. Both are still TARGET, extremely different outcomes, don't you think???

And, BTW, even though I may seem like I have a HUGE set of brass balls, I'm NOT a "dude" :rolleyes:
 
Dude, at the end of the day its TARGET...

Ok, thought I was done, but this is so offensive. At the end of the day, it's not "just" Target.

At the end of the day it's the only thing keeping a roof above our heads. It's the only thing keeping food on the table. The only thing making the holiday season even possible. And for a lot of us, it's not just Target, because we spend more time there than we do at home, and we've become like family to other TMs. This place isn't just somewhere that you get to dismiss because it's inconvenient to you. I'm sorry that you've made horrible life choices, as you've said yourself, but don't you DARE look down at this place or those of us who work here. We are way more than just people wearing red and khaki. We're human beings with feelings and careers ahead of us.

Next time you go to dismiss it, remember that you're here, too. You're one of us, like it or not.
 
Who is your employer, so your point is??? We shouldn't give a damn because "it's target?" Sorry, you "have a bad day" and a mannequin looks like something out of "fashion dos and donts quarterly..." I "have a bad day" and someone dies. Both are still TARGET, extremely different outcomes, don't you think???

And, BTW, even though I may seem like I have a HUGE set of brass balls, I'm NOT a "dude" :rolleyes:
I call everyone Dude
 
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Ok, thought I was done, but this is so offensive. At the end of the day, it's not "just" Target.

At the end of the day it's the only thing keeping a roof above our heads. It's the only thing keeping food on the table. The only thing making the holiday season even possible. And for a lot of us, it's not just Target, because we spend more time there than we do at home, and we've become like family to other TMs. This place isn't just somewhere that you get to dismiss because it's inconvenient to you. I'm sorry that you've made horrible life choices, as you've said yourself, but don't you DARE look down at this place or those of us who work here. We are way more than just people wearing red and khaki. We're human beings with feelings and careers ahead of us.

Next time you go to dismiss it, remember that you're here, too. You're one of us, like it or not.
Because you are preaching to me, I am not a child. It is really offensive. I don't get you you blow hot and cold, one minute you are lovely then you are condescending towards me, I'm trying to wrap this up on a positive note as I am not the devil and this is a silly chat room.
 
I don't mind paying for the move I just wanted to know if they would take you as seriously for a corporate design position if you were coming from one of the stores, you know... Like Ralph Lauren is notoriously bad about not being able to move "up" into corporate.
Not really.
 
Because you are preaching to me, I am not a child. It is really offensive. I don't get you you blow hot and cold, one minute you are lovely then you are condescending towards me, I'm trying to wrap this up on a positive note as I am not the devil and this is a silly chat room.

I turned condescending because when I simply asked you how you plan to handle sales the business way, you kept changing the subject and finally said that you got it, when you continued to ignore everything we've said. If you want to see the purely lovely side of me, like many people on here have gotten a chance to see, try answering questions honestly and without annoyance. We're asking so we can better help you figure out your role amongst us, but if you continue to dismiss us like you know better, than we will all be perfectly content to watch you sink. Learn from what we're saying.
 
I call everyone Dude, I knew you were a chick from your first obnoxious posting.
And that's supposed to hurt my feelings coming from someone who went from a "NY designer" to TARGET? Sweetie, I may be "obnoxious," but I don't get all butt hurt over comments made on an anonymous forum.
 
And that's supposed to hurt my feelings coming from someone who went from a "NY designer" to TARGET? Sweetie, I may be "obnoxious," but I don't get all butt hurt over comments made on an anonymous forum.
Not trying to hurt your feelings, you keep saying obnoxious things like that last little dig at my life and some trouble I've had in it. THAT is hurtful.
 
Not trying to hurt your feelings, you keep saying obnoxious things like that last little dig at my life and some trouble I've had in it. THAT is hurtful.
well in their defense, if you went from NY designer to Target retail something isnt adding up. why would you not try to place your talents where they are better suited like another designer boutique?
 
Not trying to hurt your feelings, you keep saying obnoxious things like that last little dig at my life and some trouble I've had in it. THAT is hurtful.
It takes a lot to recover from the things I have and rebuild a life, so don't patronize me.
 
well in their defense, if you went from NY designer to Target retail something isnt adding up. why would you not try to place your talents where they are better suited like another designer boutique?
There were reasons beyond what I could control.
 
Life happens when you're making plans. Deal with it.
Plenty of people here have endured the unspeakable; just read some of the threads.
You'd better toughen up your hide if you want to make it here.
They don't call this the red & white asylum for nothing.
 
Not trying to hurt your feelings, you keep saying obnoxious things like that last little dig at my life and some trouble I've had in it. THAT is hurtful.
What dig? You were the one who said, "it's TARGET," like it was a "step down." I know absolutely nothing about your life, so how the hell could I "make a dig" about troubles you may have had??? I'm sorry if you've had hard times, but we all have. You assuming that I would INTENTIONALLY say something hurtful is effing offensive, especially not knowing what I've been through in MY life. Believe it or not, mine hasn't been all sunshine and roses & it's taken me a LONG time to get where I am today.
 
Yet again we are back to attacking me and putting me down. unbelievable.

I can't get over how sensitive some of you are.

Sure sounds a lot like whining from someone who is calling others out as being overly sensitive.

Honestly, a large number of your posts have seemed overly defensive.
 
make up you
Sure sounds a lot like whining from someone who is calling others out as being overly sensitive.

Honestly, a large number of your posts have seemed overly defensive.
Make up your mind, Am I playing OFFENSE or DEFENSE? Which one is it, can't be both.
 
Life happens when you're making plans. Deal with it.
Plenty of people here have endured the unspeakable; just read some of the threads.
You'd better toughen up your hide if you want to make it here.
They don't call this the red & white asylum for nothing.
That which doesn't kill you makes you stronger. After the life I've lived, I'm pretty much invincible by now ;)
 
Not the way human behavior works.

You're getting offended by minor things people say, which is then resulting in you attacking people.

It's not a sport, you're not playing a position. Your insecurities and defensiveness are causing you to act out in an offensive manner.

Your posts in general though are rather hypocritical. You ask others not to judge you or patronize you - yet you've made sexist comments about females, are attempting to talk down to me, and complained about others supposedly being overly sensitive while you yourself have been the most easily offended of anyone in the thread.
 
How is it going? I'm still having a hard time figuring out how my VML role is going to work with the PPTL and SLTL, what is the dynamic in your store? All the VML's in ou state district are having a conference call next week with the VMML as everyone is really confused about daily routine etc. Any insight you have would be really helpful!

I am not sure when our district will have a call with the VMML, but I am sure it will happen soon (if not the same time yours happens). I am very interested to hear from them and how they will assist the stores and our role.

The dynamic in my store hasn't changed much with my arrival since I insisted to spend the first few weeks as a team member in each department. Of course I have been utilizing my training plan, but supplanting it with in-store experiences so I can better understand what works well, what the store needs, building relationships and what opportunities the team has observed that need to be addressed. To some this might sound a bit 'vanilla and textbook', but it works for me and has in my previous positions, regardless of the responsibility I was overseeing.

PPTL, SLTL and VML I can see as working very well together. While it might "seem" that one may do some of the others work, they absolutely do not. The current problem, which is posted over and over, is that the TLs in all departments are stretched thin right now. While some people can attribute some of that to manpower (yes, that is part of an issue), there is also the issue of workloads, specialties and overlapping responsibilities. The way it was did not make any logical sense if you want to elevate the business and go further. Elevate doesn't just relate to 'style' either. It is about meeting the demands that are already expected of the teams and being able to adjust the business to the rapidly changing retail market. All the systems and policies won't save a company from losing income if they can't excite, meet expectations and inspire their guests.

I have been impressed with how efficient my store (and Target) is with their flow process, planning & installation and tenure of team members (at least it is in my location)...but the store concept is already outdated (which is why there is such a rush to invest in revamping) and has to change.

After the end of my next week I will begin to start impacting the location, but I think we might have different ideas on what "impacting" means. To me, since I have been doing this type of specialty for over a decade, it goes beyond the face value of visual and more into the metrics, training and leadership. I have a solid team already, so it is about learning from them the Target ropes, while coaching them to achieve the knowledge/skills that they need or want to know so they can understand my vision and hopefully grow in their career aspirations.

I really look forward to hearing on what direction the VMLs get from the VMMLs and also how their stores have been training them (if at all). To me, it is crystal clear what our positions are intended to bring to the business..and I guarantee they will expect us to deliver results.
 
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